From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 13:36:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2FE16A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix18.sihope.com (unix18.sihope.com [207.195.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED3343D2B for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:36:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) Received: from unixws1 (unixws1.sihope.com [207.195.195.190]) by unix18.sihope.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9Lah8p086230 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:36:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) From: Adam Maloney To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> References: <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp> <001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com> <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1071005801.15221.216.camel@unixws1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:36:43 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:36:45 -0000 Just thought I'd add my $.02 > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster) > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of > the time, so we do it in multiuser. > On most of my boxes I do the installs and merge in multiuser mode. I'm a little more nervous about mail, so I always do it in single-user mode on the mailserver. Fragile is a good word for this state. We did 4.8-STA to 4.9-STA on Sunday on mail and it was probably less than 5 minutes of downtime (single-user, installworld, installkernel, mergemaster, reboot). > The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and > we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers. > Yes! > > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or it's > > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD > > Good question 8-) > I have always done source, and I always sync with stable and re-build everything (rather than using patches). Why? It just "feels" right :)