From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 24 11:16:42 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B1816A4CE for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:16:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E09743D58 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:16:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) Received: from [200.152.82.190] ([200.152.82.190]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1OBItS0013390 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:18:55 -0300 (BRST) (envelope-from asstec@matik.com.br) From: Suporte Matik To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:16:22 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20050223110037.177AB43D2F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <46881.147.8.2.201.1109222551.squirrel@147.8.2.201> <421D9F49.8060309@diewebmaster.at> In-Reply-To: <421D9F49.8060309@diewebmaster.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8734529.kLy3grCxny"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200502240816.27991.asstec@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/705/Fri Feb 11 14:51:32 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,ISO_7BITS, NO_RDNS2,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.1 (2004-10-22) on msrv.matik.com.br Subject: Re: SpamAssassian with FreeBSD and Big Mail Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:16:42 -0000 --nextPart8734529.kLy3grCxny Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 24 February 2005 06:32, Christian Damm wrote: > thomas@hkeasyhost.com schrieb: > > I would like to try dspam as well as I am using spamassassin, but dspam > > are leak of docs on postfix supporting, and no one got experience with > > i can encourage you to do so - you wont regret it: the statistical spam > filtering methods in dspam are miles ahead spamassassin`s (spamassassin > on the other hand is an antispam framework where so many things can be > done (rbl`s, razor, dcc, spf etc.) - i do things like rbl checking > (wirespeed) on the smtp level with postfix so i dont mind. > the postfix integration is dead-easy, really. the dspam docs could be > better but the dspam mailinglist is quite helpful if you got questions. > also consider using one of the many postfix/dspam/etc. howto`s out there: > I am not so sure here I tried several different setups of Dspam and on small test servers 100 use= rs=20 or so it actually worked but even so the false-positive rate was very high,= =20 actually too high. But another test server with only 2000 user dspam is lost already and it=20 didn't matter which store method I tried out, even a MySQL for it only. It= =20 runs a day or two but soon a spam wave comes in message delivery time grows= =20 up, memory goes up, the queue fills the disks and swap is eaten until the=20 server goes down on his knees. When I tried to get some numbers nobody=20 answered clearly and I only hear ohh I have lots of users but I never saw=20 something real. spamassassin on the other side with good rules maintanance is hitting fine,= I=20 get almost no false-positives and almost all spam is correctly identifies=20 which we drop into a spam folder with procmail. That is cool, no memory=20 excess and absolutly stable and reliable. Hans > http://devnull.com/kyler/dspam.20040609.html > > > dspam+Spamassassin together, so... > > the latest amavisd-new versions got dspam support - anyway its a little > bit "hacky" at the moment i.m.h.o, so i wouldnt really use it on > production hosts (some might disagree in small mta environments). > > >>Vahric MUHTARYAN schrieb: > >>>Hi Everybody , > >>> > >>> Really I don't know can I say a big mail server which have > >>>30,000 mailbox on it 1200+ simultaneously connections > >>>(pop,smtp,webmail). > >>>=DDncoming smtp connections are between 200-400 . We want to run spam > >>>software > >>>on it but machine can't handle it for this reason we seperated machine > >>>freebsd+exim+SpamAssassian but on 400 connection machine goes down > >>>average > >>>is very high , cpu usage really too high . > >>> > >>> I want to learn Anybody Who have closer or bigger system a= nd > >>>using SpamAssassian ?! > >>>Really this 400 connection simultaneously can be limit for spam softwa= re > >>>?! > >>>I mean Anybody can handle more ?! > >>>I have to design distributed environment ?! > >>> > >>>My Hardware is (for spam) > >>> 2 X PIII 1G + 1 GB RAM + 2 DISK RAID 0 SCSI 10000 RPM > >> > >>i use spamassassin only on small-/medium-sized MTA installations (its a > >>memory/cpu hog i.m.h.o. but i like it) - on all my "bigger" systems i > >>really prefer dspam (coded in straight C and fast as hell). it is used > >>in some environments with 350,000 email users and scales really well (if > >>you have the iron and experience to build/maintain such a > >> system/cluster). > >> > >>http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/ > >> > >>>Thanks > >>>Vahric > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > >>>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > >>>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >>-- > >> > >>mfg. > >> > >>christian damm > >>technische leitung > >>phone: dw 42 > >>email: christian.damm@diewebmaster.at > >>icq at work: 124464652 > >> > >>die webmaster - fl=F6tzerweg 156 - 4030 linz - austria > >>phone: +43-732-381242, fax: +43-732-381242-22, isdn (leonardo): > >>+43-732-381242-33 > >>homepage: www.diewebmaster.at, public email: office@diewebmaster.at > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > !DSPAM:421d64a4175283000910921! =2D-=20 Infomatik implementamos asas na sua rede. 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