From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 22 17:57:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231137B401 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734E843F3F for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from salty.rapid.stbernard.com (corp-2.ipinc.com [199.245.188.2]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A83E5B6AB; Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:57:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr.com To: Charles Sprickman , Rudolph Pereira Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:57:35 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.2 References: <006601c29cab$ec3a9c80$0100000a@D9NLZD0J> <20030721203209.GO1414@starfleet.org.au> <20030721195854.P20962@shell.inch.com> In-Reply-To: <20030721195854.P20962@shell.inch.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200307221757.35027.wes@softweyr.com> cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 00:57:37 -0000 On Monday 21 July 2003 17:02, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Rudolph Pereira wrote: > > Just to drag this thread on a bit further ... > > > > I've been looking into these little boxes, thinking I could use one > > as a firewall/gateway. My one requirement is that it would need to > > have two PCI slots (one can be low-profile), and although I've seen > > PCI riser cards that can give me two slots, they've been rare, > > And all the dual or triple slot ones I've seen also have an edge > connector that goes into another PCI slot on the mainboard, so I > don't know that they would even work. > > > and cases that are suitable (i.e have the space, and back panels > > are compatible) even rarer (I've yet to find one). Does anyone > > know of any such cases (it'd be even better if they're available in > > au)? > > No, but if you find something, please post! I've been searching for > something that is nice and small yet has more power than say a > Soekris box and can handle more than one or two ethernet cards. > Isn't there also another mini form factor? I see that places like > Iron Systems and other rack-mount outlets have some boxes that aren't > mini-itx, but are still only 14" deep (about the size of an old Cisco > 25xx router)... Those mostly use Micro-ATX form factor boards. Some of them are getting dirt cheap, too; a local screwdriver shop advertises one with a P4 for $499 these days. Wowsers. Probably a crappy motherboard, but toss in another $100 for a good mobo & power supply and you've got yourself quite a 1u system. Then just wait for them to overheat... -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com