From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jun 15 14:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (diskworld.nanolink.com [195.24.48.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 283FE37B405 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roam@orbitel.bg) Received: (qmail 1229 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Jun 2001 21:08:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:08:22 +0300 From: Peter Pentchev To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: steveb99@earthlink.net, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Message-ID: <20010616000822.B731@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Jordan Hubbard , steveb99@earthlink.net, hackers@freebsd.org References: <20010615135713Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <002201c0f5de$1f3844a0$f642d9cf@DROID> <20010615140117A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010615140117A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:01:17PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With the full knowledge that what I'm saying will probably be of no use, I have a personal friend who is a Microsoft certified developer, with full access to the source code of most Windows versions and other well-known Microsoft apps. He has told me more than once that, yes, the NT TCP/IP stack is somewhat BSD-derived, but from other conversations I gather that he has had to change things on his personal machines (things that never made it, and probably never will, in any MS official distribution), to make it *more* BSD-like. I'll ask him for details, and for any links, but you shouldn't really expect an answer before Monday.. G'luck, Peter -- When you are not looking at it, this sentence is in Spanish. On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:01:17PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Do you have a pointer to what you read? I really need HARD evidence > here, not just anecdotal stuff. Thanks! > > - Jordan > > From: "Steve B." > Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:59:51 -0700 > > > What I read awhile back was MS licensed from BSDi their TCP/IP stack for use > > in W2K. > > > > Steve B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jordan Hubbard" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:57 PM > > Subject: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? > > > > > > > I've had several marketing types approach me recently for details as > > > to whether or not Microsoft was using the BSD TCP/IP stack and/or user > > > utilities, and though it's always been "common knowledge" in the > > > community that they were, when I set about to "prove" it I found it to > > > be less easy than I'd thought. I've strings'd various binaries and > > > DLLs in my copy of Windows 98 but have yet to find anything resembling > > > proof. Does anyone out there have any details or discovery techniques > > > for confirming or disproving this assertion either way? It would be > > > very useful (for us) from a PR standpoint to know. > > > > > > Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message