From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Mar 11 13:58:22 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7A1ACC424; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D713C2D5; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A44D2849A; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:58:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-86-49-16-209.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.16.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A81062848E; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:58:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <56E2CEF9.3080200@quip.cz> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:58:17 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Slawa Olhovchenkov , Baptiste Daroussin CC: David Chisnall , Glen Barber , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8) References: <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <20160308124016.GA70809@zxy.spb.ru> <20160308131847.GP1531@FreeBSD.org> <20160308151459.GB70809@zxy.spb.ru> <05A039B7-AA9A-47BB-B68E-89D9D5627D20@FreeBSD.org> <20160311120511.GN31877@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160311131055.GO70809@zxy.spb.ru> <20160311132059.GA11339@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160311133157.GP70809@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <20160311133157.GP70809@zxy.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:58:22 -0000 Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote on 03/11/2016 14:31: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 02:20:59PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 04:10:56PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 01:05:11PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: [...] >>> Case of only a few monolitic packages is essentiality simple then case >>> of 1000 combined packages. >> pkg info -a on one diff with pkg info -a on the other >> for the full content: pkg info -a --raw on both end and diff them. >> >> That should cover your case, no? > > No, that may cause a much false positive: slight different versions, > unimportant packets and etc. In 1000 packets this give to many noise. If you don't need version numbers, you can list just package names pkg query %n or package origins pkg query %o Anything else is on your side and even if I understand your complaints (and I agree with some of them) I don't thing it will change anything on the future of packaged base. So it is better to spend our time on working local solution to new problem. It has some pros and some cons and I hope the pros will outweigh cons. Miroslav Lachman