From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 5 16: 8:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092FB37B405 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0399.cvx21-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.193.144] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16tdko-0007X3-00; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:08:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3CAE3C62.4012DA04@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:08:02 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Greg Pavelcak , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use/Utilize References: <20020405183857.GA58446@oitunix.oit.umass.edu> <20020405231950.B63981@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > For my own peace of mind, could someone provide an example where S uses A, > > but S does not utilize A. Or the other way 'round. > > Actually I think the distinction is probably one of Brett's and Terry's > fantasies. They mean the same in ordinary English and I'll be > surprised if there is a distinction in law (IANAL but nor are they). Your definitions ignore the fact that "use" can be a noun, an intransitive verb, or a transitive verb. The word "utilize" is *only* a transitive verb. The GPL "uses" (8-)) the word in its least common application, where the word "utilize" would serve better, and therfore attempts to muddy the waters regarding derivitive works (utilizing the code) vs. operation of the application (using the code). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message