From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 19 08:21:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F158D1065674 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C068FC1A for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JbtXu-0000WZ-AI for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:14 +0000 Received: from 195.208.174.178 ([195.208.174.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:14 +0000 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 195.208.174.178 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <2a7894eb0803172207s20aede75w5632bd463654cc77@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0803180812u147de98cnb7cdbfe1e6fe6562@mail.gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.208.174.178 X-Comment-To: Murray Stokely User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: Need an environment for dynamic web content for freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:21:20 -0000 Hi Murray Stokely! On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:12:45 -0700; Murray Stokely wrote about 'Re: Need an environment for dynamic web content for freebsd.org': >> No. Not PHP. Ever. Forget. >> >> It should at least cgi or, as aforemetioned, a wiki-like page. There can be >> already some wiki engines which allow voting. > I've not seen any useful voting mechanism implemented on a wiki. > Pointers? CGI is exactly the kind of 15 year old stagnant web > technology we are trying to get away from. We need quick templating, > sessions, high level UI libraries, etc.. Yes. > All of which things like PHP, Python/Django, etc.. provide. They all provide, except PHP :) Every serious PHP project is reinventing template system, database abastraction layers > - Murray (who doesn't know/use PHP, but knows that the freebsd > web presence is notably missing something like it) Anything but PHP. Don't choose that buggy, slow, immanently insecure technology. Please. P.S. You can see http://tnx.nl/php for a short summary of PHP drawbacks. Even Perl is much better. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight]