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Sat, 22 Nov 2025 05:58:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2025 10:57:59 +0000 From: void To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: changing from pkgbase to regularbase Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <71e4b46c-8d69-451d-92ca-79316ffc4b63@app.fastmail.com> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[f-m.fm,none]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[f-m.fm:s=fm3,messagingengine.com:s=fm3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:103.168.172.128/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[103.168.172.156:from]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[f-m.fm]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[f-m.fm:+,messagingengine.com:+]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:151847, ipnet:103.168.172.0/24, country:AU]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[messagingengine.com:dkim] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dD8FR42mhz3JvJ On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 01:35:41AM +0000, Lexi Winter wrote: >probably by making the warning more difficult to override... A retrograde step IMO. The warning was sufficient to prevent installkernel-by-accident. Which I think was the goal. Accidental foot-shooting. There is no need IMO for further guardrails when the goal in this case was to move back to a traditional system. >there is no supported method to "depkgbasify" a system. IMO there should be. >the correct method to not use pkgbase is to not select pkgbase when >installing the system. People change their minds. From an immediate "oops" to a repurposing of the installation further along the road. Just about everything within FreeBSD can be changed post-installation. Why this issue with pkgbase? >an unofficial and unsupported, but functional, workaround is to install >the system with pkgbase, then immediately run "rm -rf /var/db/pkg" >before installing any ports, which will leave you with a system mostly >identical to a distribution set install. you will need to manually >bootstrap etcupdate after doing this, since pkgbase doesn't install the >etcupdate data. That's good to know. It'd be useful to have this in the handbook somewhere. --