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Date:      Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:41:37 -0400 
From:      "SILVER, MICHAEL A" <MSILVER@scana.com>
To:        "'FreeBSD questions'" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        "'David J. Kanter'" <djkanter@northwestern.edu>, "'John Turner'" <john@drexeltech.com>
Subject:   RE: Getting DSL for FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <DBB3921EFE2AD211A81500A0C9B5FE760579455A@msg04.scana.com>

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Keep in mind the latest fad around here is USB DSL Routers.  You will need
USB drivers for the router in this case, and I don't know if they exist for
FreeBSD.  

My advice:  Try not to get the USB router, as it seems to be less reliable.
My brother sometimes has to reboot a few times for it to work (win98).  This
could just be a configuration problem, however, I would stick with what is
tried and true: Ethernet (i.e. a non-USB Router).  It is compatible with
(almost) everything.

...Michael...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of John Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:34 AM
> To: David J. Kanter; FreeBSD questions
> Subject: Re: Getting DSL for FreeBSD?
> 
> 
> At 10:17 PM 8/7/2000 -0500, David J. Kanter wrote:
> 
> >I'm thinking of getting a DSL but am a bit confused on what 
> to ask the
> >companies to ensure that the line will work with FreeBSD. I 
> assume that even
> >if they don't advertise it to work with FreeBSD, in some 
> cases it probably
> >does.
> 
> DSL works with any OS.  The output of any DSL 
> modem/router/bridge is a 
> standard RJ-45 Ethernet jack (at least, it should be this way in the 
> USA).  This will plug into any network card.
> 
> Non-windows users who want DSL merely need:
> 
> 1) a working network card
> 2) the ability to change the IP address bound to that network card
> 
> >If a company doesn't explicitly advertise "works with UNIX" 
> (Telocity is the
> >only one I've seen that does this), what questions can I ask 
> that will
> >convince me that it does?
> 
> It works.  Period.  There are no DSL drivers or anything like 
> that.  It's a 
> standard ethernet connection.  If you have only one machine, 
> you plug into 
> the DSL router/bridge/modem using the cable they supply, change the 
> IP/netmask/gateway/DNS on your FreeBSD machine, and away you 
> go.  If you 
> have a LAN, you'll need two NICs in your FreeBSD box, one 
> setup with a 
> private IP and using ipfw/natd or similar.  Search the 
> archives for more 
> information/how-to.
> 
> >Do I just have to be sure that the NIC card they want to 
> install has a
> >driver that can be added to the kernel config? Also, I've 
> read that the
> >local telco (Ameritech) "will only work with Windows" and 
> uses an ATM NIC.
> >Is that bad?
> 
> I would get your own NIC.  Several months back, when I 
> switched from ISDN 
> to DSL, I purchased 10/100 SMC ethernet cards from CompUSA 
> for $12 each 
> (and there was a 5-foot CAT5 cable in each box).  Worked 
> perfectly in my 
> FreeBSD box that I'm using as a gateway.
> 
> For what it's worth, I live in Michigan, and Ameritech is the 
> local Baby 
> Bell here as well.  They have almost nothing to do with DSL 
> other than 
> providing the copper pair that is your physical connection 
> (the same type 
> of connection as an ISDN line or a POTS line...DSL just connects to a 
> different point back at the telco switch).
> 
> >And I guess I could throw this in: And DSL company recommendations?
> 
> I've personally dealt with four in the Detroit Metro area.  I 
> would avoid 
> Flashcom.  I personally use Concentric, and have found them 
> to be the most 
> reliable and the most "bang for the buck": ADSL 
> 1.0Mbps/384Kbps, 4 legal 
> IPs (bridged) for $89/month, servers are no problem.  Others 
> I've dealt 
> with are Rhythms and Ameritech.  The Ameritech DSL is OK on 
> bandwidth, but 
> very spotty on reliability.  If I wasn't on Concentric, I 
> would probably be 
> on Rhythms.  Your mileage may vary.
> 
> As others have said on the list, you won't regret switching 
> to DSL...it 
> rocks, and puts cable modems to shame.
> 
> - John Turner
> 
> 
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