From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 17:56:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B00316A404 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFDF13C4BB for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 17:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so775590ana for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=de4WlztFOb9JuV6QXe74aG9uuunzawoB9CLD4PBlMrFSBwJmdrPHjYU9UHkfUVYEoOgc2jGwDz8AyvApn7SeFRGb8qSJl97jriaDDxa0S6BAG8WwYgFTI8hh1gYCciBjQlRfka1XlWeDx/OPDQeR9WTD7tWas8CdvL72z2f7+wo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N1pOY8Wl69nIiZxBUwvPuuKg5kCGgEEvOKRoEma08Vub9moHW4KZlCP8tkZOoKBQhLe3OvaxnyTUMjE4us11j0mL6I/Iw00OxxvUeQwjk1a74c1OqbSZDgAl7jrm0tWa3Ht1BrTFY3tGfq9jyVutn0ueE1tEJ5FIRLJxtGY3c30= Received: by 10.100.31.2 with SMTP id e2mr1505921ane.1175795795244; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 12:56:35 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=" In-Reply-To: <86zm5nrllc.fsf@dwp.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <86zm5nrllc.fsf@dwp.des.no> Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:56:36 -0000 On 4/5/07, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > "Nikolas Britton" writes: > > Can anything in the list below be removed from CURRENT? > > No. Modern i386 and amd64 still have an ISA bus, and devices > connected to that bus, even if they don't have ISA slots. > What you speak of is the LPC bus. LPC is intended to be a motherboard-only bus. No connector is defined, and no LPC peripheral daughterboards are available. So I come back to the question of why we have external devices from 1987 still floating around in the kernel and more importantly why these devices are enabled by default in the GENERIC kern conf? http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/industry/25128901.pdf