From owner-freebsd-ports Fri Feb 28 13:18:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9FE37B401 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9071B43F75 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:18:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joek@mail.flyingcroc.net) Received: from mail.flyingcroc.net (zircon.staff.flyingcroc.net [207.246.150.92]) by gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA49276; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:18:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3E5FD22B.3040904@mail.flyingcroc.net> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:18:35 -0800 From: Joe Kelsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030219 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Polstra Cc: ports Subject: Re: WARNING: portupgrade considered harmful References: <3E5FB1F8.4050405@mail.flyingcroc.net> <20030228195747.GA27650@huckfinn.arved.de> <3E5FC0DD.1080704@mail.flyingcroc.net> <200302282102.h1SL22Sm031572@vashon.polstra.com> In-Reply-To: <200302282102.h1SL22Sm031572@vashon.polstra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Polstra wrote: > In article <3E5FC0DD.1080704@mail.flyingcroc.net>, > Joe Kelsey wrote: > >>I prefer to think of it as a fundamental misdesign in rtld-elf. The >>basic problem is that rtld-elf is more than happy to load two different >>libraries wit virtually the same name at once, leading to massive >>errors. FreeBSD's rtld-elf is the *only* runtime loader that I have >>ever encountered which allows this broken behavior. Apparantly, Polstra >>believes that there exist a situation where loading two instances of a >>library or two versions of a library is *not* an error. If rtld-elf did >>not do this, it would catch or prevent most of these errors in the first >>place. > > > Dude: If Polstra has any thoughts he would like to share with you, > he'll express them himself. > > PS: Polstra isn't the rtld-elf maintainer. Sorry, the last time I had a conversation about rtld-elf, I remember it being with you. I apologize for my memory issues. I also apologize to the list for naming John incorrectly. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message