From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 16 14:14:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA17079 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA17066 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost.coverform.lan [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01577; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:47:07 GMT Message-Id: <199701162147.VAA01577@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Andrew Stesin cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD as an ISDN Router In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:05:54 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:47:07 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Dear Brian, > > On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > The alias stuff converts *every* port number for a given interface, making > > what appears to be going on and what's actually going on into two completely > > different things. > > Would you mind explaining me please, how the stuff discussed > here differs from what IPfilter (with NAT "range-to-range" > functionality) (see http://coombs.anu.edu.au/~avalon > for details) does? It solves the same problems, but the alias code has some packet-mangling stuff built in to deal with ftp PORT commands, realaudio etc. It also manages fragments and ICMP packets. The *real* advantage is that it's not filling the tcp stack with clag, whereas ipfilter does (not that much clag, but it's "unclean"). The *real* disadvantage is that it only works for user-level ppp. The best solution (the one I'm going to tackle) is the masqd daemon sitting on top of ipfw 'divert'd packets. No kernel mods, one daemon program and it works on any interface.... wonderful ! -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....