From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 11 12:12:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7453437B755 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eogren@rod.darktech.org) Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.111.48]) by emu.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24761 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e3BJDrd01008 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:13:53 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: [MAILER-DAEMON@earthlink.net: Returned mail: Service unavailable] Message-ID: <20000411151353.F304@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Didn't want to bounce this to -questions, but looks like I have no choice... Eric --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.24]) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3BIwIj00919 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with internal id LAA28048; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <200004111857.LAA28048@eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net> To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="LAA28048.955479426/eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net" Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) This is a MIME-encapsulated message --LAA28048.955479426/eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net The original message was received at Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:00 -0700 (PDT) from ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.111.48] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to freebie.lemis.com.: >>> MAIL From: <<< 550 Mail rejected. See http://www.lemis.com/dontspam.html 554 ... Service unavailable --LAA28048.955479426/eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net Arrival-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; grog@lemis.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: DNS; freebie.lemis.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Mail rejected. See http://www.lemis.com/dontspam.html Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) --LAA28048.955479426/eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from rod.darktech.org (ip48.cambridge1.ma.pub-ip.psi.net [38.32.111.48]) by eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27986 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eogren@localhost) by rod.darktech.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e3BIw8500915 for grog@lemis.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:58:07 -0400 From: Eric Ogren To: Greg Lehey Subject: Re: HUGE kernel built from 3.2 CDRom Message-ID: <20000411145807.C304@earthlink.net> References: <20000410231204.A3861@earthlink.net> <20000411155707.N26373@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000411155707.N26373@freebie.lemis.com>; from grog@lemis.com on Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 03:57:07PM +0930 On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 03:57:07PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > You also noticed that stripping a kernel is going to cause Bad > > Things(tm) to happen; I wouldn't recommend it. > > This isn't quite correct. Kernels with full symbols contain two > different kinds of symbols: global symbols and debug symbols. Some > programs, such as dmesg, need the global symbols. It's the debug > symbols which cause the "bloat". Correspondingly, there are different > ways to strip a kernel. Use 'strip kernel' to remove all symbols; > this will cause some programs to fail. Use 'strip -g kernel' to > remove only the debugging symbols. > > I personally recommend keeping the debug symbols. If you ever have a > panic and want to find out why, you'll need the symbols. > Wow, I never knew '-g' could be given to 'strip'. Anyways, I would recommend keeping the debug symbols around as well, but since he complained about the kernel size... Thanks for clarifying my response. Eric --LAA28048.955479426/eagle.prod.itd.earthlink.net-- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message