From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 31 2:37:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8523E37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 02:37:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from aph2k.internal.aphnet.co.uk (mailgate.aphnet.co.uk [62.49.140.130]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EBE43E4A for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 02:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@aphnet.co.uk) Received: from robltop.aphnet.co.uk ([192.168.5.22]) by aph2k.internal.aphnet.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:33:23 +0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20021231101925.025d3f20@aph2k> X-Sender: rob@aph2k X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:32:46 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rob O'Donnell Subject: Re: Water Damage In-Reply-To: <90CEBAA4-1C88-11D7-B574-000393681B06@lafn.org> References: <3E11070B.5000306@jcdurham.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2002 10:33:23.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BBF1B60:01C2B0B8] Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 22:24 30/12/2002 -0800, Doug Hardie wrote: >The one server that I have responsibility for (mailserver running FreeBSD >4.6) took awhile to get rewired properly. When it was yanked out, some of >the internal cables were disconnected. Had to find the motherboard book >to figure out how to set them back up properly. Once that was done, the >machine came up and worked fine. However, its inlet fan was severly >disfigured by the falling burning stuff. Since its at the bottom of the >unit, the junk only marred the bottom of the frame. There were no >electronics there for it to damage. The fan sounds funny now and I >wouldn't trust it. However, the keyboard connector is now defective. You >can't plug a keyboard into it. I couldn't find anything visibly wrong >with it, it just doesn't work. I have no idea how that happened since >there was a keyboard plugged in during the flooding. My only guess is >that whoever unplugged it did so via the grab case and run method - >leaving the keyboard to catch and disconnect itself. If it's a PS/2 type keyboard connector (small plug) there is a plastic pin that often gets broken off and left in the socket if connectors are pulled out violently, blocking a new keyboard being inserted. (Seen it often with mice.) If this is so, I've had success getting them out by using 'blue tack' (a semi-adhesive goo used to hold the kids drawings on the wall) on the end of a matchstick to grab hold of it. Sounds like this machine was lucky, though replace the fan when practical... >None of the MS servers survived. None had backups either. I suspect that >will be a significant problem. However, I do have backups for the mail >server and did recover the complete disk and dumped it to my laptop so >that will be a simple restore. Are they completely toast? Can the hard discs be pulled and tested in another machine? Failing that, companies do exist that specialise in data recovery in these situations. For a price. It depends how valuable the data is... Oh... and, as my boss would say, it's an opportunity to sell them a backup solution.... Rob -- APH Computers Ltd. Tel: 0161-442 2603 Fax: 0161-443 1162 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message