From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 05:53:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4DB106566C; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacombar@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6068FC08; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyi40 with SMTP id 40so4635984wyi.13 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n8FF0wiJ0urmeOZTz6VTUe3atMuO6Flsq/iP/6+lft0=; b=BDwkAeHFcJysd9GLba9jB0aeXiDcKbAEev9M2FuFIjoSar3MofnTQNIjv1BkSsofas +GzdzvUvaeyDOWx2S3zOoh59CIl64V3oJybeEGuKxOqYo5xyVULs25S/PT9HFPSwnrAg HF3oN63SM59tMAPhZ/VMsqivnqjoIfto4vo58= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.4.74 with SMTP id 10mr926427wbq.49.1319176422040; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.103.198 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:53:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E984BF9.4000700@FreeBSD.org> <1318607697-31950-1-git-send-email-lacombar@gmail.com> <4E9DA38F.1040305@FreeBSD.org> <006E57CF-F21F-4245-935A-9F391F0BCBEA@xcllnt.net> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 01:53:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: Arnaud Lacombe To: Garrett Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Warren Block , Marcel Moolenaar , Andriy Gapon , Marcel Moolenaar , Olivier Smedts , FreeBSD Current , Oliver Pinter Subject: Re: possible mountroot regression X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 05:53:44 -0000 Hi, On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: > On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wro= te: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Garrett Cooper wro= te: >>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Block wro= te: >>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Oliver Pinter wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/19/11, Olivier Smedts wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/10/19 Marcel Moolenaar : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would you be able to commit a variant of this patch sans the 'x' p= art? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, soonish. If people like the 'x' change I can do that in a foll= owup >>>>>>> commit as well. I just need to know if people like it or not... >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it's useful. But why not "q" for "quit" ? Just a bikeshed color >>>>>> idea... >>>>>> >>>>> eXit :) >>>> >>>> In some languages... >>>> >>>> More important to me is the "the Abort manual input" which tells what = it >>>> does but not why the user would want to do that. >>>> >>>> Abort manual input... and then what? =A0Hang? =A0Retry? =A0Panic? =A0R= eboot? Resume >>>> attempting to mount the root device that was expected? >>> >> well, panic, there isn't much other thing to do. At the very least, >> letting the user input something is still better than what Linux do, >> which is to panic. >> >>> Or just go back to status quo for previous releases and we can worry >>> about usability later? >>> >> which status-quo ? the mountroot procedure of 7 is broken as well, as >> I found out yesterday. So what ? 6 ? 5 ? 4 ? > > =A0 =A0The status quo that I was thinking of was press enter to get a > list of available devices instead of immediately panicking like the > new bootloader code currently does. As long as that status quo is > restored, I think a lot of existing users will be happy. Otherwise > this discussion could stall and turn into an unnecessary bikeshed. > this discussion should not even have happen, and I'd hope[0] that the next message in this thread is either a new patch, or a revision ID where the stuff is fixed, ie. less talk, more action. Btw, if no action is taken, I do not really care, I'm running my patch and am happy with it. - Arnaud [0]: which is pretty much worthless