From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 11:43:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C3616A417 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F22513C4A7 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mchauber@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Sep 2007 11:43:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (EHLO [192.168.1.102]) [204.116.241.146] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 05 Sep 2007 13:43:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #15034054 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18MpiQwxIEMLrMd5XZG245o2fivR/V8htHo/JvwzL BapJ6QD87dvgcR From: Michael Hauber To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:43:37 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200709050743.37695.mchauber@gmx.net> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mchauber@gmx.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:43:48 -0000 On Wednesday 05 September 2007 00:35:35 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael Hauber > > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:22 PM > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Sadly, my tinker-time has run out.... > > > > > > Hey, all... > > > > > > Because I've put so much time into getting this FreeBSD install > > where it is > > now (and because I favor the BSDs), I'm still a bit hesitant... > > Has anyone > > here had much experience with ubunu as a desktop? Negatives/positives? > > Different strokes for different folks. There's nothing to be > ashamed of for choosing a different OS because it fits your needs > better than FreeBSD. However there is a lot to be ashamed of if > your announcing this to the FreeBSD mailing list as a veiled > attempt to "spur" the FreeBSD developers to make FreeBSD more > ubuntu-like, or to trigger a flame war between ubuntu and FreeBSD > supporters. > > Your post to me kind of seems rather passive-agressive, your > praising and condemming FreeBSD at the same time, in the same > sentences. I can't figure out if your trying to flame-bait or > not, so I'll assume the best, that your not. > > Basically, dude, what you need to do is shit and get off the pot. > Every OS under the sun including Winblows is going to suck up > tinker-time. If you want a computer (or a happy wife I guess) > then you need to accept that and quit whining that you don't have > enough time. Here's a thought - unplug your TV set for a month > and I'll bet you get a lot more tinker time. > > Anyway, you need to load ubuntu and load windows and load debian, > and load red hat and so on and so on and make your own decision > as to which meets your needs. None of us here can read minds > and you haven't stated what your needs are - other than you want > more time, which as I explained is a mirage - there isn't going to > be more time freed up by replacing FreeBSD with something else, your > just going to spend the same time with a different set of problems - > so if you honest-to-god need more time, then give up something > in your life that is consuming time that you gain less from > than your computer. It could be anything from TV to your daily > commute, to smoking, to drinking beer, you name it, whatever. > > Ted =46lamer-bait, no. Lazy tv addict, no. Go back to windows, hell no. Have time, no. Trying to be negative about any BSD, absolutely not. =A0 I asked out of respect for this board, not out of frustration for FreeBSD o= r=20 OpenBSD. =A0The FreeBSD and OpenBSD will probably always be my favorites. Now... =A0As to why I asked this board.... =A0Who better to ask than folks = that=20 have some of the preferences? I needed something that I could take on the road without having to spend a = lot=20 of time upgrading/tweaking. =A0Ubuntu is turning out to be fine for that. Giving something up... =A0I did (for the time being), and I'll miss it. My overall response for all that bullshit you just wrote... =A0Go find some= one=20 else to jerk off. Mike