From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 25 11:09:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F242B106568C for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=1481e02895=brian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0D18FC19 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2009 04:41:12 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=1 a=MJPcHhXccCG8eBs0us8XwA==:17 a=MMwg4So0AAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=ZT4lUwVGkln9Y6YlvXUA:9 a=5KIN3r7MZbznHzk0cTgA:7 a=bi9cJamc7Ty9TRVrEJfptvO_Tn4A:4 a=WJ3hkfHDukgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=T588jcPp3brV9v73k90A:9 a=NEyOCEzHxeufVKYfehLGO14h8jcA:4 Received: from unknown (HELO store.lan.Awfulhak.org) ([70.79.162.198]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 25 Aug 2009 04:41:09 -0600 Received: from store.lan.Awfulhak.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 70F91C43518_A93BFC3B; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:41:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gw.Awfulhak.org (gw.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.1]) by store.lan.Awfulhak.org (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id 24EE5C460F3_A93BFC1F; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:41:05 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dev.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.5]) by gw.Awfulhak.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7PAf4cd090785; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 03:40:54 -0700 From: Brian Somers To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/5Xee_40azWQyT3XMHoTDzh_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Ivan Radovanovic Subject: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:09:37 -0000 --Sig_/5Xee_40azWQyT3XMHoTDzh_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the originator) challenged my reason for closing it. The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement width limitations, and any time I've seen people not using -ww has either been a mistake or doesn't matter. Using 'cut -c1-N' is also a great way of limiting widths if people really want that... I'd like to propose changing ps so that width limits are removed and '-w' is deprecated - ignored for now with a note in the man page saying that it will be removed in a future release. Does anyone have any objections to doing this? I don't propose merging this back into stable/8. --=20 Brian Somers Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! --Sig_/5Xee_40azWQyT3XMHoTDzh_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (FreeBSD) iQCVAwUBSpO/wA7tvOdmanQhAQKOgQP/f4zpizwkdzq08feUhZnZYBsgDg6F1FQ2 0aX1MqG5tMo1P6xNbagZfZJi79/nx7IiAr6Q0YisCtzF+DpK91Pmi1gciTSSPSdz RWr/qYwhAATj5q4r9SrqokV8EuNxkpnMAaJvQ2Twq1gXwpQ3OpVWb5PrW8H2UQaD KB/fZbyC1xA= =vJHH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5Xee_40azWQyT3XMHoTDzh_--