From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 26 21:14:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95DC106568C for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:14:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A2908FC35 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n7QLEpA8038822 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7QLEpPu089326 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7QLEp3n089325 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:14:51 -0700 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090826211451.GA88786@marvin.optimis.net> References: <1338880b0908241129p75b6845cg26d21804e118364@mail.gmail.com> <20090824223247.GD43410@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <1338880b0908252246s21191e83k7c251366b706532@mail.gmail.com> <20090826180741.GA23120@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090826191348.GA85581@marvin.optimis.net> <20090826202347.GA27093@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20090826204539.GC24590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090826204539.GC24590@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: hard disk failure - now what? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:14:52 -0000 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:45:40PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:23:47PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:13:48PM -0700, George Davidovich wrote: I > > remember this special non-condictive 3M fluid that can be used to > > cool electronics. A group of hackers dunked a complete PC minus the > > case and power supply in this stuff. The fluid itself was cooled > > with liquid nitrogen. They everclocked it something wicked. Not very > > practical though. :-) > > A number of supercomputers from Cray and Control Data and maybe some > other places used this sort of thing on some experimental systems. I > don't know if any ever were put in to commercial production. They > submerged who boards in to it and then supercooled the fluid. I > don't remember the chemical names. I do, but have no idea why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorohexane > The fluid was a relative of Freon and held sufficient levels of oxygen > to support lung breathers. They used to have a tank with a live mouse > submerged in it bouncing around and seeming to have no trouble not > choking or drowning. > A variation of it was also researched as a blood substitute for some > special medical needs. I don't know how far that went. I know it > is not all fantasy because I saw the live mouse. I believe you. I saw a similar scene in a movie, so I already knew it had to be true. Bonus points for anyone that can add to this thread's collection of off-topic but semi-interesting trivia and name the movie. > I didn't try the blood substitute. How do you save a drowning mouse? Use mouse to mouse resuscitation. Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal instead. -- George