From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 4 22:22:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB0237B400; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheffield.cnchost.com (sheffield.concentric.net [207.155.252.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4EE43E4A; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (adsl-209-204-185-216.sonic.net [209.204.185.216]) by sheffield.cnchost.com id BAA24175; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 01:22:26 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Message-ID: <200209050522.BAA24175@sheffield.cnchost.com> To: John Baldwin Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: aout support broken in gcc3 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Sep 2002 23:08:08 EDT." Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:22:25 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You are blowing this out of proportion and not actually reading > what people are proposing. So far, the comments are about > removing a.out support from the base compiler and offering > a.out binutils and gcc _as ports_. A port is fine -- but this was proposed much later in the thread. > > Unfortunately there is no such direct back-pressure in the > > open source community and developers usually don't have a > > long term view. > > Thank you for insulting our intelligence. Sorry you see it that way -- I certainly didn't mean to insult anyone's intelligence. It is just the way I see it -- programmers want to program neat new things (or "clean up" code or make thinge more elegant, faster, more modular, more generic and so on) and users just want to continue using what they are comfortable with -- even when they want to play with new and shiny things. I believe both groups should participate in deciding the direction FreeBSD takes. That is what will bring out the best without breaking old things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message