From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 12:54:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35B11065680 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:54:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9108FC26 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:54:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so1536452ewy.19 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:54:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=iX0IHlZzhWFWWumQ/cmmqJRnxV0C9eExd0AbrN6zIhc=; b=vr9PpcYddfcJqPaINfa+bdHNep2F68vQwhFmhmErl5nFuF3Nd9oBibYH3uHQR60L0+ V9nH/judX6Yz3a8jllul587X8FzfrhFQwpH+EJFMPi+Fg2UTy0SoK17xsg/c8lTFn7mB obqfq47qYQUbHJMyT9rctRC22rduoD3W5UZcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; b=nf04kC48QEazH9YMDwhlJ2/Er9zor7WdhOqw8BXyjuCLILbeJvFT0CGkTEwwVijeZv RzOP1jlZMNagklr4/iDYj2gOdp7zhSiQiihfrk3hF1kETUt9806uiA5mGop2c4zVV3ON obWBi9oxYSKxDoCAFOeoKA25GJJHpUkENVGNU= Received: by 10.210.22.16 with SMTP id 16mr3167905ebv.53.1229000044147; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from oleg.net.nevosoft.ru ([195.182.128.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm129768eyh.47.2008.12.11.04.54.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 11 Dec 2008 04:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:53:56 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081211071914.278ae942@scorpio> <20081211133632.114d77c7.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081211133632.114d77c7.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812111553.56955.subbsd@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: subbsd@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:54:05 -0000 BTW on the http://forums.freebsd.org number of multimedia-related questions is more than server-side ;) And this is fact - FreeBSD become to Desktop due to work of many peoples who porting multimedia application to FreeBSD. Therefore this functional be want. But without good supports of hardware device this job come to nothing. On Thursday 11 December 2008 15:36:32 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:19:14 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > Define: 'Actual Work'? What you are referring to is that it meets your > > criteria. Everyone's work platform might not be so narrow. > > ometimes, "actual work" may be entertainment, gaming, or > programming obscure hardware platforms. :-) > > > I use FreeBSD for may things; however, it is by no means a perfect > > system. There are just too many things that either don't work, or don't > > work well. > > I may say this: At home, I'm using FreeBSD exclusively since > approx. 2000 (at least since release 4.0). Here everything > worked without any (!) problems, no need for problem reports. > At work, FreeBSD and Solaris are present. For some fields of > use, I would not FreeBSD instead of Solaris. However, I found > no operating system that could replace FreeBSD in the fields > where I use it. > > As in many other topics, this is only my very individual point > of view. > > I do see "FreeBSD's problems" in most cases where hardware > support isn't up to date, but that's mainly a thing of the > hardware manufactureres that (a) build black boxes or (b) > do not use existing standards, so accessing their hardware > is a problem. Other problems are usual entertainment stuff > that seems to hook that deeply into the operating system that > it leads into problems - yes, I'm talking about "Flash" > especially. > > Hardware vendors are mostly interested in operating systems > that already have a huge market share. Allthough FreeBSD is > a very professional OS and has a growing usage share, its > market share isn't that big, so it is considered to be > unimportant. Furthermore, FreeBSD is considered to be an > OS for servers, allthough it scales very well from desktops > over mixed forms to servers. And servers usually don't contain > bleeding edge GPUs and strange WLAN USB sticks, so that's why > the support isn't that good. > > Personally, I'd prefer an OS that supports a narrow subset > of hardware excellently and efficiently instead of an OS that > claims to support everything, supports most things poorly > and through "binary blobs" where you can't be sure what it > actually does.