From owner-freebsd-pf@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 6 05:53:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 312EAFE4 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:53:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE6BC5E6 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 05:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id nt9so1695647obb.33 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:53:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=4Vl16ZNRF4NEZcZU0iZxIBTiE00u1zwRUU3iWwq3ies=; b=aNGKDh2jD9JQ7F+IdnBiGYc0NSvyaUPLtrMWaqQ0yQnUsNjKzfFqsEyM6f9Wi7+AB9 M7gno0/kgkyOXlSGDwtmD7uaWI6gwozIybZGmXWOZ4h1EUroigmtAW4FFSkX27zOMP4A 3lCyX/Ijnzl2o8GutqWzRuDBp2NQokAKKHEu9fPlimBsuLyxe+2iX3voB2Q1yYVj73Nv b6MKuXIQYKMVJ+kQJIjHiT+4cnTtSYeqHElzT1h2Isv8jcloU32gW25iZJB+VzEwgf5q G7bT1AaTJOgb/gaekpI90I8yUB+cQkBrYnSMKDvnoh+EUBiP8htqwXMF/hpEuVRogNeh zZ4A== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkNxNimeO2gBLd8nCowDN/Mrw4me2Cibqg22eTPURembANGSyI5Y2utm7hoYvsKE2ngIfDw X-Received: by 10.182.205.164 with SMTP id lh4mr12721674obc.5.1417845217705; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.21.0.83] (65-36-83-120.static.grandenetworks.net. [65.36.83.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k9sm14946831oev.8.2014.12.05.21.53.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:53:37 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: FOLLOW-UP From: Jim Thompson X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12B436) In-Reply-To: <363021417833295@web21g.yandex.ru> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:53:36 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <363021417833295@web21g.yandex.ru> To: Martin Hanson Cc: "freebsd-pf@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-pf@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "Technical discussion and general questions about packet filter \(pf\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 05:53:44 -0000 It's strange how you assume that no bugs can be fixed outside the openbsd tr= ee.=20 I'd say more, but it would be flaming, or flame bait.=20 Jim > On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Martin Hanson wro= te: >=20 > Okay, this part "Has any important bugs been fixed in PF on OpenBSD > since the current port in FreeBSD that actually makes the current PF in > FreeBSD "dangerous" to run with?" was actually a really stupid question! >=20 > The.. >=20 > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/vendor-sys/pf/4.5.002/?view=3Dlog >=20 > .. shows that the last import was for tag 4.5.002 5 years and 3 month > ago! >=20 > Going back to that time in the OpenBSD CVS log and then scrolling up > until present day shows quite a bunch of REALLY important fixes! I am > NOT talking about the changes made by the OpenBSD guys, just bug and > error fixes! >=20 > http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/sys/net/pf.c >=20 > Problems that can cause kernel crashes, fixes for PF crashing faults, > out-of-memory errors, leak of states, and a whole lot of other > important stuff. >=20 > Nobody in their right mind would run the current version of PF on > FreeBSD! >=20 > I am sorry, but how can someone be so stupid as to get a whole bunch of > new features into a product that seriously needs upgrading first!? >=20 > Whats going on FreeBSD? You used to be all about quality, now you're > all about "bleeding edge features" and don't give a s*** about the rest? >=20 > Linux can get away with that crap ONLY because such a huge bunch of > people and organisations are running and supporting it, they have a LOT > of people developing stuff and fixing stuff really quick, FreeBSD > haven't got that user base! >=20 > It needs to be about quality over features! Like in the good old 4.x > and 5.x days! >=20 > Martin > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-pf@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-pf > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-pf-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"