From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 20 21:54:56 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17166 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17161 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 21:54:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA01080; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA18355; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:54:36 -0500 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA51853; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:54:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199901210554.AAA51853@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: make release produces unbootable boot floppies, no boot loader, no /kernel In-Reply-To: <199901210259.SAA05393@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jan 20, 1999 6:59:41 pm" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:54:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), software@kew.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi, Hang on a second... I think you might be putting words in my mouth... I'm not saying that the nfs boot floppy is the One True Boot Floppy. I see no reason why we can't have a netboot.flp and a dskboot.flp created. If you really want to make things easier for the beginner, why not provide a DOS boot program. Then you wouldn't even have to worry about boot floppies. Tell new folks to copy the boot program to the DOS partition and run it from DOS. Case closed. No boot floppy required. I can imagine half a dozen ways to make this work. However, I don't really want the above. I'd simply like to see a netboot.flp become a standard part of the distribution. There are others on the list besides myself who have said they would like to see this. It's simple to do, just a few extra commands in the release.8 target. Unfortunately, I'm not a committer, and it really isn't a technical question... It's a political issue... FreeBSD seems to want 'The One True Floppy'... Oh well, Thanks for listening! John I said: > > If I hop on my soapbox, I'd really like to see a single floppy > > network install which supports nfs(which I also re-enable on the > > normal boot.flp since it fits on the 2.88M image). > and Mike replied: > The problem is that there are too many people standing on too many > different soapboxes. Each and every one of you wants a different > combination of stuff on the One True Boot Floppy. > > I'm sure you can see what's wrong with this picture. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message