From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 27 22:50:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1E48278; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.stack.nl (relay02.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailhost.stack.nl", Issuer "CA Cert Signing Authority" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5DF057A7; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from snail.stack.nl (snail.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::131]) by mx1.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30FB9358C67; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:50:14 +0100 (CET) Received: by snail.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1677) id 1C69F28494; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:50:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:50:14 +0100 From: Jilles Tjoelker To: Garrett Cooper Subject: Re: r279278 failed to build (yacc: maximum table size exceeded) Message-ID: <20150227225013.GA66202@stack.nl> References: <20150225154327.GD1161@hub.FreeBSD.org> <20150225182201.216f6fee@nonamehost.local> <54EE05EA.3030509@FreeBSD.org> <8E4B6A07-BEB7-46B9-BFD2-0B3F33162760@gmail.com> <54EE1E38.30106@FreeBSD.org> <95891DFC-786D-4064-A9F9-7A8E434EC568@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <95891DFC-786D-4064-A9F9-7A8E434EC568@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Ivan Klymenko , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Glen Barber , Arseny Nasokin , Allan Jude , Jung-uk Kim X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 22:50:18 -0000 On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:11:29PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: > I was going to propose something a bit more radical — I can remove the > BOOTSTRAPPING conditionals and simplify the code on 10-STABLE / > 11-CURRENT. > Maintaining BOOTSTRAPPING is error prone and it’s not saving much time > in the long run in builds (it's taking longer to diagnose issues, test > them, and commit fixes which will break at a later date). I’ve been > bitten by this once because I don’t run ancient CURRENT/STABLE > (r279198) and here are a couple follow up commits bumping tools > versions in the past (e.g. r278975, r269662, etc). > Just a thought. This may be appropriate for contributed code that will build on older FreeBSD versions without issues, but I don't like being forced to add (mostly untested) compatibility code with usage of recent libc features. For example, utilities like cp and touch currently use utimensat/futimens without #ifdef mess or extra code in libegacy. The strict BOOTSTRAPPING conditionals allow removing bootstrap tools eventually, when building from such old versions as to need them is no longer supported. -- Jilles Tjoelker