From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 9 00:52:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E161442 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 00:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rush.bluerosetech.com (rush.bluerosetech.com [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:9b00::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEFD312C3 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2013 00:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:1680:365:21c:c0ff:fe7f:96ee]) by rush.bluerosetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3281E11434; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ivy.houseloki.net [10.9.70.7]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F028AD6; Sun, 8 Dec 2013 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52A51438.4090200@bluerosetech.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:52:08 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: BIND segway -> python -> first-class ports References: <529E8C53.6020208@freebsd.org> <20131204060246.GV2951@home.opsec.eu> <52A12843.3010204@freebsd.org> <0BFC927B-D72E-4926-BB3D-2C000F310BDD@fisglobal.com> <7271C4C4-7BAB-4DA7-9E10-49D5B2DB8964@mu.org> In-Reply-To: <7271C4C4-7BAB-4DA7-9E10-49D5B2DB8964@mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2013 00:52:04 -0000 On 12/8/2013 11:02 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > So if I were going to task the talented Devin Teske with something, > remember you just asked my opinion, then it would be to look at > putting Lua in the boot loader, getting python into base, or working > on making our utilities be able to output standard machine readable > formats such as yaml, XML and json. Can you cite a real-world example of a general-purpose OS where this was beneficial? Beneficial here means otherwise impossible functionality or automation gains without adding barriers for low-level diagnostics, tuning, corner-case configurations and other modes of advanced control. I'm not trolling here; I'd really like to see one.