From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Dec 17 5:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from arctic.icelab.net (arctic.icelab.net [198.49.247.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8CD37B417 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 05:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (valence@localhost) by arctic.icelab.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fBHDTdk76725; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:29:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from valence@symboliq.org) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.icelab.net: valence owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 06:29:39 -0700 (MST) From: Valence Logrus X-X-Sender: To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: Haikal Saadh , "'Trish Lynch'" , "'Chris Coleman'" , Subject: Re: Hotmail _still_ runs FreeBSD! In-Reply-To: <001601c186de$d4ad6680$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Message-ID: <20011217061544.X76559-100000@arctic.icelab.net> X-Files: The Truth is Out There K2Y: Is It 1970 Yet? X-Rated: Oh Yeah Baby X-Men: Wolverine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote: =AD=AD=BB =AD=AD=BB Bill isn't a thirteen-year-old geek with more testosterone than b= rains, so I =AD=AD=BB doubt that he is as emotional and irrational as you imply. If he= were, he =AD=AD=BB never would have reached the position he is in today, as people w= ho think =AD=AD=BB and act like children tend to be poor businessmen. =AD=AD=BB =AD=AD=BB Emotional and irrational is an exaggeration, a rivalry does exist however, between Scott McNealy and Bill Gates, if only at surface level "just for fun". I don't think it's too fun for Bill, as Scott has himself testified several times against Microsoft during the antitrust hearings. Trade rags have constantly picked up sayings from Scott bashing Microsoft, as chairman of the board at Microsoft Bill has an opportunity to be annoyed by those comments. Whether he is or not I surely don't know. Microsoft may just use whatever gets the job done, but for Sun it's a different matter, as Sun has no reliance whatsoever on any Microsoft products, so the rivalry may just be a Sun thing, but it is amusing still. It's like the Harvard-MIT rivalry, there really isn't one formally, but the sophmoric persons on both sides still like to believe there is one. But this is a digression. We're advocating FreeBSD, not Solaris! I recall some previous discussion regarding Sun asking the FreeBSD core team about porting FreeBSD to the SPARC platform. Does anyone know if Sun has courted "FreeBSD" again since then? Sun flirts with Linux but really doesn't want to comit to it even as much as IBM has flirted with it. I'd really like to see the SPARC port efforts out there keep on going, I'm trying to do my part here and there, but it is a big p.i.t.a. The problems around SMP are the big issue it seems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message