From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG  Tue Jun 22 18:38:02 2010
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A6A106567B;
	Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:38:02 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com)
Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com
	[209.85.214.182])
	by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1348FC1B;
	Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:38:01 +0000 (UTC)
Received: by iwn7 with SMTP id 7so6056081iwn.13
	for <multiple recipients>; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
	h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received
	:in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject
	:from:to:cc:content-type;
	bh=eDH5KThs84GFuPXptE/QF86UzA5JXopoy59sogFCKzE=;
	b=Fn7Xmd9rG2iwsr+DLc+9fLv2BWBCQW4J5KzTmL9+weHsisCOeZJ+QcSuwgqJrcJxVn
	kHVr7/0x25rFDAMUqRA/QbAF0EFsddBPVY+84qghKQf4zbOHBmavtdPNWD/yMdrcPk/P
	fRElpYTRudw/HsozsZNz/c3WlVWfvGK6gxp00=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
	h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date
	:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type;
	b=j604EqBsf47pqhYnbByKTsydknAIMyDoGsxOhSLm+qhlncs0BLnxmMA3yPvTXTaiqs
	XOeo8I7LV6JwsciTF/hGGk0aHZW8ZP5Xek0IUGQYkaQYm5LoooE2plwd9089MQSdYWAD
	kL0ZDXlCBSPqKfXLETnwalKOEAsQ/yuAXBCVY=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.231.120.100 with SMTP id c36mr6725448ibr.77.1277230197761; 
	Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
Sender: yanegomi@gmail.com
Received: by 10.231.117.201 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:09:57 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZHGoC8Oy74Scssfm_QVFO-r3qkz4LIq3a6B97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100617.143334.584432776655157077.imp@bsdimp.com>
	<20100618201737.T41916@delplex.bde.org>
	<1D395333-64E2-4B2D-9E90-B4958FBA6583@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikZHGoC8Oy74Scssfm_QVFO-r3qkz4LIq3a6B97@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:09:57 -0700
X-Google-Sender-Auth: Rm_BQBmhsNFNCU3UoZMOhvXrWtA
Message-ID: <AANLkTikny8qXkrrEVVwF0M6BoNPBl7Wu7W3MwPu2b_jc@mail.gmail.com>
From: Garrett Cooper <gcooper@FreeBSD.org>
To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Fabien Thomas <thomas.fabien@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Time to stop stripping binaries?
X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture <freebsd-arch.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arch>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch>,
	<mailto:freebsd-arch-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:38:02 -0000

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 21 June 2010 14:41, Fabien Thomas <thomas.fabien@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Having base symbols will help if you do PMC on the system for example.
>> I'm always building with DONTSTRIP=1 to have it at the moment.
>
> ISTR someone pointing out that there's a "magical" (ie, I don't
> understand it) way to optionally have debugging symbols as extra
> file(s), rather than having to ship extremely large shared libraries
> by default.

    See this link:
http://old.nabble.com/-gcc--separate-debug-infos-td21591416.html .
It's similar to what I've seen some internal groups do before in the
past.

> On another hand, the Linux box I'm using oprofile on has a libc6-dbg
> package which includes the extra symbols in libraries which populate
> /usr/lib/debug/ . I haven't the foggiest clue how the linker (and
> opreport) know how to use which and when.

Cheers,
-Garrett