From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 15:40:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0B6C7DC; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnebdal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FF1A2BAC; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ea20so7221864lab.27 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vHvYcGwcndsHAlnf3NpAukEPx2dPzQyHAsPHqOcrNBo=; b=HZf3bGh3C/vdzv2OZ6RIDyQC4q+8fe64EVC7fkZ9sAAhNjxDLl2XUbiIyKIJ+Mhyxg RbGTlRHCT7V9yqednFnJrXOOkGIk9mRy7xhVa78t+TavPONGKDWChtDhW4jnz1FxzPM6 a8oVSTeZatoNImTwsKLEXUvs/NVOKRrfIgKU/eG0t2VNoMQQgN5X5hOVsH58vnhvNTky KL39bBZ7m+dczUUAx+ZDB/UNUOGJt8euWE5HpANp3UWF7YEhU2dpOIffiaFcM58dsEXU lyenMy70vW03IMx/D1L+e/zKQCTU0d4Cw5x/VRKb1PF51zgemDK/TOw1wOQXKdaAnfYs pkhQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.28.7 with SMTP id x7mr1871960lag.26.1381246823126; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.155.137 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:40:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52541202.3010707@mu.org> References: <77307DF8-637D-4295-BF47-8742F1552CE8@orthanc.ca> <20131008031517.GA31864@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs From: Daniel Nebdal To: Alfred Perlstein Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Lyndon Nerenberg , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , Steve Kargl X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:40:25 -0000 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: >> >> On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >>> >>> On 2013-10-07, at 8:15 PM, Steve Kargl >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe there was no development for 15 years. However, the 7364 >>>> lines in ChangeLog after 2010-02-04 suggests that there may >>>> be few bugs to worry about. >> >> >> I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a very simple >> way, and >> it works just fine for that. with no real need for any updates or any >> change. > > > With all due respect Julian, The more we discuss this more this really > points to the problem that FreeBSD appears to be a challenge to install > packages into such that a package moving out of base is such a big deal. > > Can we fix that instead? > > I mean, this change should really not be a big deal, but yet it is and this > speaks to the core of FreeBSD utility. > > So again, is there a way to make it so adding RCS after install is not a big > deal at all? > > > -- > Alfred Perlstein > If they get the package repositories back up - which I assume will happen before any official releases from 10 - it should just be "pkg install rcs". As challenges go, that doesn't seem too bad? That said, an online meta package builder *is* a nice idea, and seems perfectly doable. -- Daniel Nebdal