From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 13:15:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7CC16A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from merke.itea.ntnu.no (merke.itea.ntnu.no [129.241.7.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C0243D46 for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from svein-freebsd-questions@theloosingend.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557313C5AA for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:15:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from maren.thelosingend.net (maren.math.ntnu.no [129.241.211.48]) by merke.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:15:11 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 49939 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Mar 2005 13:14:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Mar 2005 13:14:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:14:54 +0100 (CET) From: Svein Halvor Halvorsen X-X-Sender: sveinhal@maren.thelosingend.net To: Theo de Raadt In-Reply-To: <200503200327.j2K3Rdl8023802@cvs.openbsd.org> Message-ID: <20050321140612.J49145@maren.thelosingend.net> References: <200503200327.j2K3Rdl8023802@cvs.openbsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Scanned: with sophos and spamassassin at mailgw.ntnu.no. cc: misc@cvs.openbsd.org cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: aac support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:15:14 -0000 * Theo de Raadt [2005-03-19 20:27 -0700] > We do it all the time! > > We mail a vendor, and then we start a frank dialogue. I (or some > other developer, maybe even Bill Paul from FreeBSD > (Mr. Ethernet)... anyways, people like that.. ) explain the business > case to the vendor. > > They almost always understand, and then give us documentation. > > Sometimes they open the documentation wide up! Seems to me that you need to get in contact with the stock holders of these companies. I do not know too much about the USA, but in Norway everyone who owns (any number of) stock in any public company, have a legal right to attend the general assembly that such companies are legally bound to organize every year. As a stock holder you hva ethe right to both speak at the general assembly and to propose a case trialed and to demand a issue to be considered and dealt with. Why not buy exactly one (1) stock in each and every hardware company there is in the USA? Show up, speak to the audience (the other stock holders), and have your case heard. Also, the stock holder register is probably also open to the public, which mean you could contact each and every one of the other stock holders and let them hear your case. I am sure Adaptec (or any other company) would want to listen to their owners. But then again; what do I know about business? Svein Halvor