From owner-cvs-etc Wed Jun 4 16:41:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03744 for cvs-etc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03734; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA09651; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:41:04 -0700 (PDT) To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: Satoshi Asami , bde@zeta.org.au, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.include.dist In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Jun 1997 03:29:35 +0400." Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 16:41:04 -0700 Message-ID: <9647.865467664@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-etc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I see most unpleasant case with current method is potential /sys & > /usr/include files mispatch (in case someone bump kernel file limit f.e.) > and possible missing availability of some kernel deeper level directories > from user program, I suggest to keep symlinks as they are in source case I knew that you'd make this exact argument, and it's unfortunately bogus. :-) Updating your include files, both directly in /usr/include and in its subdirectories, is just plain something you should do if you're dinking around with sources and building your own kernels and such. I feel very strongly about that, so strongly that I'll go even further in saying that people who mismatch their /sys and /usr/include directories deserve to lose and that adding an architectural wart like this to try and save them from themselves only bites us in far worse ways than it helps us. It is the WRONG solution now, it was the WRONG solution when we inheirited it and now it needs to DIE DIE DIE. Sorry for the extra dose of vehemence, Andrey, but this crock has been so much like a low-grade toothache for me throughout the years that I basically just got used to it and was ignoring it until you guys called attention to it again. Now I'm wondering WTF is wrong with me that I've lived with it for so long without just going to see a dentist to have that sucker yanked out. ;-) Jordan