From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 01:56:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2F81065672 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gobble.wa@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0E28FC0C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:56:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so3703416wib.13 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nkvLWaB45/R42fiEMXKoIlJXaN281IdWwmgBGsVFqqQ=; b=mpJ/2hbyhCaxorWM03btLM2D+Sn+zw2Zw+n9cDo7JryUmp0HC5+FEz2EuYglKCg0TS DkwSzem/A0p9GSIn9D1Nd4C0awkhx9cJ74oGoychw8YaWKWq2qGaoK3yLgH/S8NPN4M/ PMMrgp/eF7AbTXLyoU5tGACeXbfoTL12MifotxDRDtWdqLQ2VuSF/dE5dFBuEH/P8bXI qneCPRLxo//35YQzqgyXsrB65Zwwp1M5V5dYZ7EOn5O0VZT/9uWNGdtEHW/UuD9w7Zys NZ1wCq+qXDesjngaFaemNRTD7sj45oQhD3TasLUG6Z4q/MiUnXybd2wDjTPOsK0QZk/H n68A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.195.12 with SMTP id o12mr16022628wen.194.1338947796597; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.184.73 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120605213358.5047d683@europa> References: <20120605221250.9da6bd5c.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <4FCE61D4.9070300@cran.org.uk> <20120605230025.a1e39827.goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com> <20120605213358.5047d683@europa> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Waitman Gobble To: Mike Jeays Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:56:38 -0000 On Jun 5, 2012 6:35 PM, "Mike Jeays" wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT) > Chris Hill wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote: > > > > > For the time being only ARM platform is restricted. > > > > True, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded by > > MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is > > to add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or > > all desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of years. > > > > -- > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > ** [ Busy Expunging ] > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > This seems all too likely to me. I expect it will become very hard to find a consumer laptop that will run other operating systems in a few years. There won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one can be pretty sure. It will be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive future. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I understand there are only a few (like two) monster-sized computer manufacturers, which are based in China, who manufacture the massive bulk of "consumer" laptops. the name brand models in the local retail store are almost always these ODM computers with a preloaded hard drive and a fancy label w/ insignia slapped on the shell. One may purchase a "Generic" laptop to spec (without any MS stuff installed, if you so desire), for a single-unit competitive price. for example search "compal" ... i'm curious how the restricted boot scheme will come into play in these "no flashy labels" portable machines. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA