From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 6 18:25:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.tig.com.au (smtp2.tig.com.au [203.109.250.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D2114DE3 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reman@tig.com.au) Received: from tig.com.au (p25-tmp7.syd.ihug.com.au [209.76.102.217]) by smtp2.tig.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22729; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:22:46 +1000 Message-ID: <37AB8B48.4A79197B@tig.com.au> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 11:26:32 +1000 From: Chris X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wes Peters Cc: bee@wipinfo.soft.net, "'Vince Vielhaber'" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE quirk in 3.2-STABLE kernel ? References: <001201bedfb8$92fa3440$88291fac@wipro.tcpn.com> <37AA75DD.3F3DD365@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wes Peters wrote: > > Biju Susmer wrote: > > > > > Regardless, you have to have 1 master and 0 or 1 slaves one every IDE > > > controller. You can't run a controller with just a slave. > > > > > I dont think it should be a problem.. Since other OSs can work with this > > configuration without any problem, why FBSD should refuse this configuration? > > When i was using 2.2.7-stable, FBSD used to recognize my CDROM *sometimes* as > > slave, not always. > > Because it's wrong. If you don't believe me, buy a copy of the spec. Why > should we waste valuable developer time trying to support mis-configured > hardware? Because if a number of new people to FBSD (from Linux or Windows) and their CDROM isnt found because of this notion that it doesnt adhere to the spec then there is a problem with the thought processes here. I am not even talking about yo average user here. If a sysadmin at a large site decides 'hey I think I might give FBSD a go' they load it up, and the exact same config that works with WinNT or Linux does not work with FBSD, they ask why? and the answer they get is that they have not got a correct spec machine, I see a problem here. Even this may persuade them not to bother, especially, as was my experience, if the CDROM doesnt want to work properly as a master device. I am glad to hear from Soren that this 'misconfiguration' will be supported in 4.0 As always when a misconfiguration (read 'not to spec') is used enough then it quickly becomes somewhat of a de facto standard. regards, chris -- Christopher Day E-Mail reman@tig.com.au Homepage http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Lair/1218 when the rain/when the children reign/keep your conscience in the dark melt the statues in the park - Fall On Me, REM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message