From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 13 20:57:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 71363D75 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4A7991CCB for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42D47B9D8; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:57:46 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BETA4: fortune -o gone? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:56:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.4-CBSD-20130906; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <20131205090208.4cdba36b@X220.ovitrap.com> <52A2AF39.7090006@ShaneWare.Biz> <52A2CC9F.7040306@andyit.com.au> In-Reply-To: <52A2CC9F.7040306@andyit.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201312131356.32490.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 13 Dec 2013 15:57:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD@shaneware.biz, Andy Farkas X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 20:57:47 -0000 On Saturday, December 07, 2013 2:22:07 am Andy Farkas wrote: > On 07/12/13 15:16, Shane Ambler wrote: > > > > so fortunes-o contained inappropriate material that was worth arguing > > about but murphy-o isn't - guess it's too short to argue over? > > > > Now limerick and gerrold.limerick contains material that some would find > > offensive, yet they are just fine where they are.... > > > > SHHHHHH!!!! > > Don't give people who are easily offended, yet continuously > use the -o option, any more reason to complain!! > > At this rate the -o option will be removed altogether! > > Actually, they might even remove fortune(6) entirely: > > > fortune -m "dove of peace" > > fortune -m "Democratic Committee" > > fortune -m "people and the pigeons" > > -andyf > > ps. Bad move core. If you must know: I would rather that fortunes-o had remained as-is. The problem is some developers started purging it of items they felt were personally too offensive. (Not all people have the same standards regarding freedom of speech and all that.) Rather than having long debates about what freedom of speech is or isn't and what things are "too" offensive for fortunes-o (irony in that statement is intentional), we elected to remove the file instead. I certainly hoped that someone would pick up the file and place it in ports. I would recommend the fortunes-o.real file from rev 228909. -- John Baldwin