From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 8 23:22:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5A7BF557 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 23:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "funkthat.com", Issuer "funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BA0D22D4 for ; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 23:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from h2.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s58NM3UA046190 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@h2.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by h2.funkthat.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id s58NM3iT046189; Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 16:22:03 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: George Mitchell Subject: Re: Not to beat a dead horse, but ... Message-ID: <20140608232203.GN31367@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: George Mitchell , Andreas Nilsson , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List References: <5394A848.7030609@m5p.com> <5394B80A.2030901@m5p.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5394B80A.2030901@m5p.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (h2.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , Andreas Nilsson X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 23:22:11 -0000 George Mitchell wrote this message on Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 15:22 -0400: > On 06/08/14 14:58, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > >[...] > >Yes? Can you even buy a system today that is uniprocessor? My phone is a > >dual core thing, and it got written of because of its "meagre" hardware. > >Top of the line phones has 8 cores. [...] > > I'll grant you I haven't had the urge to upgrade recently. My systems > are adequate to my needs, so why should i? -- George Power consumption... Depending upon power cost and your old system, and modern system, you could see a $100/year savings in your electricity bill (assuming 24/7 runtime)... Many of the older single core systems don't have the ability to shutdown clocks to parts of the chip and other improved power saving features... I know this wasn't a computer, but I had a switch that I had been using for a large number of years... I finally measured the power consumption of the switch, and it turns out that the electricity savings in a year, paid for the entire cost of the new switch... We were talking ~$250/year in savings, so, upgrading can end up saving you money... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."