From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 21 23:59:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89516A41F for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: from isis.sigpipe.cz (fw.sigpipe.cz [62.245.70.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CF043D45 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from neuhauser@sigpipe.cz) Received: by isis.sigpipe.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6B3781F87BFD; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:59:50 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Mark Linimon Message-ID: <20051021235950.GB15030@isis.sigpipe.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Mark Linimon , "Michael C. Shultz" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211454.41789.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021220910.GA18988@soaustin.net> <200510211519.47370.ringworm01@gmail.com> <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051021223958.GA19955@soaustin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 23:59:52 -0000 # linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: > > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a plateau > > with the current two level directory structure. No one is afraid to update > > the basic OS when its needed, even when it means using an entirly different > > file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so scared when it comes to the ports > > system? > > Then PLEASE SUBMIT PATCHES. Tested ones. Involving portsmon. Involving > the build cluster. Involving marcusom tinderbox. Involving FreshPorts. > Involving everything in bsd.*.mk. Involving fixing up all the dependencies > after all the thousands of repocopies. This is an absurd overreaction. FreshPorts is a third party resource, and FreeBSD does change other interfaces also used by other third party software on regular basis. The build cluster automation shouldn't limit the utility of ports. BTW, are the scripts publicly available? I don't see anything on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/ or http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ If I wanted to update the build cluster code, where would I get it? portsmon is your software, and keeping it hostage to changes in ports is IMO unethical. Interfaces sometimes change for the better, just update your code and be done with it. Note that I'm not advocating doing the repocopies because that would royally screw the repository history, and that's just not worth it. -- How many Vietnam vets does it take to screw in a light bulb? You don't know, man. You don't KNOW. Cause you weren't THERE. http://bash.org/?255991