From owner-freebsd-current Sat Oct 6 16:14:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-227.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93CE37B405 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5841A66BD5; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 16:14:24 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PATCHES for Kris Kennaway to commit Message-ID: <20011006161423.B98049@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20011005130234.B79332@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC328.BBA18D7C@mindspring.com> <20011006014817.A87811@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEC895.7DDC13C4@mindspring.com> <20011006021556.A88143@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBECE11.94EDC09D@mindspring.com> <20011006025321.A88421@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBEDC60.F8599D84@mindspring.com> <20011006040424.A89151@xor.obsecurity.org> <3BBF584B.BA87E7ED@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BBF584B.BA87E7ED@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 12:15:23PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 12:15:23PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > > You may recall that this isn't the first time I've tried to offer my > > help in developing and committing your changes to an area of FreeBSD > > which you've complained about -- although at least this time you > > didn't just ignore my emails outright so you could continue to play > > the persecuted hero. >=20 > The hell you have. Commit the patches I've posted to -current > over the past two months to make the release build process > more friendly to embedded systems developers, starting with > the patch to let me build an installable CDROM with a config > file other than GENERIC, and I might start to believe you. No, Terry, I didn't offer you carte blanche to "submit any change to FreeBSD and I'll commit it", I offered to commit your specific changes to an area of FreeBSD you were complaining about (registration of sysinstall distributions as packages), which I happened to agree needed to be fixed. I called your bluff then, and I called it again when you started complaining about the UUCP port. Here are the messages I sent you to which I refer above. You never replied to either -- presumably because I'd pinned you down into a position where you were forced to do work in order to continue. Kris =46rom kris@obsecurity.org Thu Jul 12 12:27:59 2001 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:27:59 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Giorgos Keramidas Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, Bill Moran , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral Message-ID: <20010712122759.B6019@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20010706144935.A61843@xor.obsecurity.org> <3B4650D0.97F10B83@b= ellatlantic.net> <20010707002340.B16071@widomaker.com> <20010707004731V.jkh= @osd.bsdi.com> <3B49F8D5.2C9BFA73@mindspring.com> <3B4A0124.26025FB5@iowna.= com> <3B4A1423.E8E365E@mindspring.com> <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=3Dpgp-md5; protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"; boundary=3D"RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <86ofqth6p3.fsf@hades.hell.gr>; from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr = on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:13:44AM +0300 Status: RO Content-Length: 1715 Lines: 51 --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:13:44AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Terry Lambert writes: >=3D20 > > The base system is not registered into the packages > > system, because of sysinstall. >=3D20 > It's not installed from /usr/ports but from /usr/src. > I don't know if it's a good idea to have a huge > freebsd_base-5.0-current-20010624 in the packages list, or a zillion > freebsd_base-bin, freebsd_base-etc, etc. installed. FWIW, it would be a pretty trivial matter to fake up package metadata for the sysinstall distributions after they're installed. You'd just generate the plist from the contents of the distribution tarball. This would be useful for deinstalling optional collections like kerberos or the header files, which is currently impossible. Perhaps Terry would like to do this to solve one of the issues on his list: I'll be happy to work with him to get a satisfactory implementation committed. > > X11 is a distribution set, instead of a package. >=3D20 > But... but... I did install only those parts of X11 that I wanted. > I'm not sure I understand this claim. I'm not sure it's even correct any longer. i.e. I seem to recall X is installed as a package thesedays, not a distribution. Kris --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7Tfo/Wry0BWjoQKURAuzEAJ98ctDT+ExCP7avHU6BXIBO7pOOVwCfV1pe h0/24H7vWCSC8hd3Z/oQZOM=3D =3DAwOd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS-- =46rom kris@obsecurity.org Mon Jul 16 12:43:34 2001 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:43:34 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: terry@lambert.org Subject: Package registration of the base system Message-ID: <20010716124333.A18622@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=3Dpgp-md5; protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"; boundary=3D"NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Status: RO Content-Length: 778 Lines: 29 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi Terry, I didn't see any response from you when I suggested how you could make a simple change to sysinstall to register distributions as bona fide packages. Do you intend to work on this, sine it was one of the big peeves on your list? I'm happy to give guidance, and as I already offered, to commit your patches once they're ready. Kris --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7U0PlWry0BWjoQKURAkEgAJ4ptCxk5zX8YYAF/gC9DkNaxMgTYQCdHcms vrENNCJM3LP4M5XbC0GTlNE=3D =3D9EIX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7v5BPWry0BWjoQKURApyCAJ4l1AEPLODq9ga5LnhLbiCO2NmKpQCgoQep wFxOZQmvoAVoiKuaIcxrJ2w= =WjiK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message