From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Oct 21 19:14:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13342 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13335 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA24148; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:13:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from klinzhai-1.isdn.mke.execpc.com(169.207.65.129) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma024146; Wed Oct 21 21:13:39 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981021210843.0109bc1c@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:08:43 -0500 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: Cyrix MII-300 Processor & FreeBSD Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <362E7D95.3EFA03ED@inc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:30 PM 10/21/98 -0400, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: >Just bought an AMD K2-266 3D, with a Tyan 100Mhz board and 1 Mb of >cache... Thing _screams_ for $350 (128 Megs 100Mhz SDRAM incl.). I'd >reccommend going the AMD route first over Cyrix, but I'd definitely pick >either over any Intel chip for the price/performance, all except for the >higher end math-intensive functions... The Intels still are best there... Super7 is a good route. They are more stable than before. My next board may be a Slot A (not 1) and the K7 or maybe a Cascades (crossbreed of the Xeon and Celeron). Depends on what happens next year. Work/play systems... for my use. ;) Anyone running a dual CPU AMD setup? No clue how well they work, but with the PPro the L2 runs at clock, not 66/100 for 7/Super7 or 1/2 for PII. Forget the Xeon period. For a server you can't beat a dual-PPro 166. Forget the 180 and 200 with 256K L2 and why pay 4x for the 200-512. Newer ATX boards allow you to overclock too. Anyways, I'd bet I can meet or beat your price/performance with Celeron 333a, board, memory for around $450. The clinch is it running at 500MHz. Ok, I do have better memory which adds about $50 to the price (for ECC add another $100). It's stable and reliable. AMD/Cyrix don't overclock, but I've been doing for years with Intel in server environments. Longer for my personal systems. Call me crazy, but I have yet to cook a CPU. An Asus T2P4 running an 83MHz bus was a killer news server. 8-) >We used nothing but the older Cyrix chips, regular and MMX, up to 233, in >our old servers. Well outperformed the equivalent Pentium, but it did >still leave a little to be desired when doing higher end math, like log >file analyzing, etc. For that, we had a PPRo, and that was more than >enough. Integer is poor on Cyrix, FPU is really poor. YMMV, but I did some testing. Day to day I found my PR200 quite acceptable, but it was noticably slow doing spreadsheets. Far slower than the P166 it replaced. In fact my P75 did better. Quite sad really. Hopefully the K7 will live up to expectations. Jeff Mountin - Unix Systems TCP/IP networking jeff@mountin.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message