From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 17:12:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B69316A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9706243FDD for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F80615227; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5FD15226 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:12:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:12:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Hoskins To: advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <003301c39e81$4d0f8b60$fdaeabd4@workstation> Message-ID: <20031029170708.T6952@fubar.adept.org> References: <003301c39e81$4d0f8b60$fdaeabd4@workstation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=Windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Subject: Re: stop the desktops' upgrades X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 01:12:07 -0000 On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, .VWV. wrote: > I'm happy for the new release. me too. :) i've done a few 5.1 installs now. (working on turning the last one into a "howto", not that it's difficult, but for any leary of making the jump...) > Otherwise, in my opinion it is necessary to stop this unuseful adoption o= f > the endless upgrades of KDE and GNOME monsters. i feel your pain, and i follow the same mindset, especially: > They still are much better than WIN. > There is no stable standard for applications' developers, under such > environments. > =A1Stop upgrading, keep a working desktop - stop the fashion system! i agree with what you say, but unfortuneately it is a necessary evil when trying to win the "desktop" crowd. :) that's precisely why many have argued so strongly against focussing too much on "desktop" support (things that are good for the desktop often annoy/hinder admins or developers), but it's inevitable in any project of our scope. we can be thankful it's at least relatively easy to use ports/packages and strip down your system to as minimal a config possible... a luxary not really afforded to the m$ world. -mrh -- From: "Spam Catcher" To: spam-catcher@adept.org Do NOT send email to the address listed above or you will be added to a blacklist!