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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:50:13 +1100 (EST)
From: "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au>
Reply-To: "Oben O. Candemir" <dunya@one.net.au>
To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG,
        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>,
        "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Sore Support 
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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

> On 01-Feb-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > People have been talking about this kind of thing for ages.
> > What we lack is someone to actually DO THE WORK. :)
> 
> I guess). It would make it easier on newbies (in fact it could be made a
> novice install option only as the rest of us know, ahum =), what to do).

Some working definitions in the freebsd world:

|futile (noun):
|	Any reasonable request for support for people new to FreeBSD. 

How can someone 'DO THE WORK' without first learning *HOW* to do it? That
is something that Jordan is overlooking I guess... the plainer points of
causality. 

Another working definition:

|newbie (slang):
|	See low-life, lame, retard, pain-in-the-rear. 


The FreeBSD 'team' looks like they are in trouble when it comes to
supporting newbies. A truly dirty word. Documentation rules supreme in
this age of information. Perhaps the 'core team' needs to be renamed to
the "sore team" from all the scars taken from battles and opportunities
lost in winning over new users.

Regards,
O Candemir


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