From owner-cvs-all Fri Jul 9 3:39:46 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from gaia.euronet.nl (gaia.euronet.nl [194.134.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4283B15234; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Received: from scones.sup.scc.nl (i244.ztm.euronet.nl [194.134.67.45]) by gaia.euronet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09742; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:39:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from scc.nl (scones.sup.scc.nl [192.168.2.4]) by scones.sup.scc.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23132; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:39:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from marcel@scc.nl) Message-ID: <3785D165.61AC67BC@scc.nl> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 12:39:33 +0200 From: Marcel Moolenaar Organization: SCC vof X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: Nik Clayton , obrien@FreeBSD.org, Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: RFC: linux-devel naming (was Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux-base-5.2...) References: <6514.931435144@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <3784953E.20F2005E@scc.nl> <19990708114649.A67400@dragon.nuxi.com> <3784FA51.639E1920@scc.nl> <19990708223740.A3633@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990708220450.C29714@mad> <3785983D.EF769633@scc.nl> <19990709054512.B84634@mad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 08:35:41AM +0200, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > I think there's a misunderstanding: > > linux-devel has nothing to do with versioning. It's the port that adds > > development tools. With versioning you would get: > > -devel is the standard -tag used to imply "latest, and > hopefully-but-probably-not greatest" version. Sometimes -latest is > used instead. Yes, but that doesn't apply to linux_lib and linux_devel. I must say that -latest is more appropriate in the example given. I associate -devel with pre-release software. > >From what you are saying, it sounds like you really want to use a > -latest or -devel tag on one of the two ports, not that you want to > use version numbers. It's not a development version. It's the next release. > > linux-base-5.2 > > linux-base-6.0 > > linux-devel-5.2 > > linux-devel-6.0 > > Which is perhaps the reason that "linux_devel" was originally named > "linux_devel" instead of "linux-devel". I wasn't aware that you were > planning a "linux-devel". You may want to use the less-common > "-latest" tag. This is really confusing :-) I think linux_devel is called that way because someone once though underscores were a good idea (like linux_lib). \begin{RFC} I've not committed linux-devel yet, so now is the time to decide if it should be called that way because it replaces linux_devel, or that we should think of an alternative to avoid confusion with common -devel/-latest tags. \end{RFC} > [From another message]. > > Well, that was originally the case when I included the version number in > > the ports directory. I got the impression that that was not at all > > welcome :-) I now have decided to drop the version numbering. Using > > RH52 as the version is even worse then it now is. > [...] > > overwrite/upgrade old versions. I just hope I don't have to say "I told you > > so" :-) > > Version numbers are perfectly welcome in the ports directory. Just do > it properly... I've given many examples in two different messages > from the existing ports system on how to do it properly. Pick one > of them, and follow it, rather than threatening to say "I told you > so". > > Please. :-) :-) I've also heard other opinions and choose the one that should please the largest number of people. If -latest is common and acceptable, then there's still nothing lost. I can always use -lastest then. But that's for later. I'll get back to you all on that one. You may already start that discussion without me, I'll join you when you've reached a consensus for yourself >:-) That's it. Please react on the RFC if you feel strongly about the matter. I'm almost ready to commit the port, so speak up now! -- Marcel Moolenaar mailto:marcel@scc.nl SCC Internetworking & Databases http://www.scc.nl/ Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 4200655 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message