From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 30 20:36:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4FE16A41F for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:36:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91.asp.att.net [204.127.203.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72E543D45 for ; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:36:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [10.0.0.4] (12-216-244-56.client.mchsi.com[12.216.244.56]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with ESMTP id <20050730203628m9100g6lj4e>; Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:36:29 +0000 Message-ID: <42EBE4CC.2000502@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:36:28 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050728 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20050728154248.GA943@zi025.glhnet.mhn.de> <20050728164111.GA66015@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20050728170401.GA9534@soaustin.net> <20050728172249.GD66015@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20050728175142.GA11503@soaustin.net> <20050728225650.GE66015@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20050729020225.GA28471@soaustin.net> <20050729102158.GA73490@isis.sigpipe.cz> <20050729203324.GA19476@soaustin.net> <9f7e126b050730124130c9bf87@mail.gmail.com> <20050730201802.GA29320@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20050730201802.GA29320@soaustin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: New port with maintainer ports@FreeBSD.org [was: Question about maintainers] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 20:36:30 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 12:11:40AM +0430, Babak Farrokhi wrote: >>There is really something wrong with the port management process. >>People's work is not being respected. So how do I get encouraged to >>submit my patches? > > We have 173 people with port commit bits (some of whom are more active > than others) and an average of around 30 ports PRs arriving per day. > Since all the ports committers are volunteers, it's not possible to > compel them to commit anything -- all we can do is to encourage, and to > offer recognition. I think we do pretty well keeping up with the > incoming PR flood (the rate of which, by the way, continues to increase.) > > It's not a perfect process, but I really don't know of what else that > we can do in a volunteer project. As a maintainer of a few of the ports, I am really quite pleased with how well it works. I think it depends a bit on your expectations. I never expect my updates to be looked at very quickly (but sometimes I am pleasantly surprized), but I always find that my updates are looked at after a couple of months. Considering that this is a volunteer project, I consider this completely acceptable. I think it is a question of whether you see the glass as half full or half empty. Stephen