From owner-cvs-all Tue May 28 10:32:42 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from kayak.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B69237B407; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.201]) by kayak.xcllnt.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g4SHWPJ60689; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@kayak.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g4SHWVTX000486; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g4SHWVZa000485; Tue, 28 May 2002 10:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marcel) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:32:31 -0700 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: "David O'Brien" , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base Makefile distinfo.alpha distinfo.i386 pkg-plist.alpha pkg-plist.i386 Message-ID: <20020528173231.GC306@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <200205280235.g4S2ZPr85521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020528040504.GB55559@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020528002336.A33431@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020528081154.GA86369@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020528081548.D33762@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020528081548.D33762@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.99i Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 08:15:48AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > > > > We already have linux_base-7. > > > > > > Would you prefer no linux_base, but only linux_base-? > > > > That's basicly the direction a choose, but I didn't see a need to rename > > linux_base to linux_base-6. My primary objective when I added linux_base-7 > > was to not cause breakages, but instead have people upgrade their ports > > and change the dependencies when applicable. RH 6 is sufficiently > > incompatible with RH 7 that it's most of the time not as simple as a one > > line change in the makefile. At least, that's what I expected... > > The problem is the linux_base* packages do not co-exist at all. And no > one has had suffient motivation to fix things. Too much "status quo" > here. I see. So the objective I had ends up being less beneficial than deliberate breakages. Hmmm... I don't have a good solution for the implied problems, so that makes your approach probably the best. Although I must say that I'm disappointed to learn that we apparently need to break more eggs than we put in the omelet to get peoples attention. > > Sorry. I dropped support for the linux_base ports when people started > > pissin' in my pool by interfering instead of cooperating. I apparently > > was unimportant enough to be ignored. Fine. Just don't expect I'll be > > coming to their rescue now. > > This goes back to the MAINTAINER issue -- right now FreeBSD'ville seems > to not want them -- but rather anachary. This sentence falls in the same category as animal droppings. I think you're *way* too black and white here. It rather smells like an escape. 'Nuff said... > > If you want people to help, communicate and let people know what you're > > up to. I think most (if not all) developers don't have a clue where this > > is going to... > > Uh, to run all linux binaries easier than we do today. It helps to define the things that make it hard and how you think you want to address it. You don't normally attract engineers with vague mission statements. It only attracts managers :-) Anyway: I think I know where you're going, so I'll stop sticking my nose in (what's now) your affairs. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message