From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 5 18:18:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614D816A406 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3B413C45B for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2007 18:18:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-10-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.10.135]:60867 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HZWXc-0001co-3k for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:18:36 +0200 Received: (qmail 95913 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2007 20:18:33 +0200 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with SMTP; 5 Apr 2007 20:18:33 +0200 Received: (qmail 60690 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Apr 2007 20:18:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 20:18:33 +0200 From: Erik Trulsson To: Nikolas Britton Message-ID: <20070405181833.GA60674@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolas Britton , Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , FreeBSD Current References: <86zm5nrllc.fsf@dwp.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-ACL-Warn: Too high rate of unknown addresses received from you X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1HZWXc-0001co-3k. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1HZWXc-0001co-3k 7d2bfbf94056d3d6cd00c8f8964340c7 Cc: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:18:37 -0000 On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:56:35PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 4/5/07, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > >"Nikolas Britton" writes: > >> Can anything in the list below be removed from CURRENT? > > > >No. Modern i386 and amd64 still have an ISA bus, and devices > >connected to that bus, even if they don't have ISA slots. > > >=20 > What you speak of is the LPC bus. LPC is intended to be a > motherboard-only bus. No connector is defined, and no LPC peripheral > daughterboards are available. But from the software's viewpoint it looks like an ISA-bus. >=20 > So I come back to the question of why we have external devices from > 1987 still floating around in the kernel and more importantly why > these devices are enabled by default in the GENERIC kern conf? Beacuse many of them are still perfectly usable presumably. (And because there are a number of persons who do run FreeBSD on older systems that might have those devices.) --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se