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Date:      Sun, 14 May 2000 13:26:06 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "David A. Bader" <dbader@eece.unm.edu>
To:        andrews@technologist.com
Cc:        trevor@jpj.net, will@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ports/12188: New port: pbs-2.1.11 (misc/PBS) a batch scheduler
Message-ID:  <200005141926.NAA10453@eece.unm.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20000511123409.C393@argon.blackdawn.com> (message from Will Andrews on Thu, 11 May 2000 12:34:09 -0400)
References:  <200004230101.TAA00723@eece.unm.edu> <Pine.BSI.4.21.0004222205300.7640-100000@blues.jpj.net> <20000511123409.C393@argon.blackdawn.com>

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Will,
 Thanks,
 -david

David A. Bader, Ph.D.                           Office: 505-277-6724
Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering     FAX:    505-277-1439
EECE Building                                                       
University of New Mexico                         dbader@eece.unm.edu
Albuquerque, NM  87131               http://www.eece.unm.edu/~dbader


> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:34:09 -0400
> From: Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com>
> Cc: "David A. Bader" <dbader@eece.unm.edu>, will@FreeBSD.ORG,
>         freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
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> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386
> Sender: will@blackdawn.com
> X-Sorted: Default
> 
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 10:45:47PM -0400, Trevor Johnson wrote:
> > > Rationale: there are several Linux clustering projects (Beowulf,
> > > ExtremeLinux, TurboLinux, etc.) that aim to provide all the tools to
> > > use Linux in high-performance cluster computing.
> > 
> > This sort of thing is the height of fashion and has attracted a lot of
> > favorable attention for the Linux folks.
> 
> Yes, I agree. I will make more effort to test the port and get it added to
> the tree. Thanks for your contribution, David, and sorry for not realizing
> the purpose/advantage of this port before.  :-)
> 
> > I am not a lawyer, but from my reading of the license (which can be
> > displayed by browsing http://pbs.mrj.com/license.php3\?site_id=anonymous)
> > it looks to me as though we could include this program as a package on
> > CD-ROMs and mirror the distfile, so long as the license is not removed
> > from the distfile (assuming it is in there--I didn't feel like filling out
> > their survey) and is printed before the package is installed.  It looks
> > like putting it in pkg/MESSAGE would achieve this.  The license reads like
> > a BSD license with the old advertising clause--no more restrictive than
> > the license on FreeBSD itself was last July (see /usr/src/COPYRIGHT).
> 
> Ok, I'll take another shot at the license and perhaps we will finally close
> this very-old PR, and see pbs included in the 4.1-RELEASE CDs.  The fact
> that David replied so quickly also helps with this job, since there is
> probably no way I can test this port in clustering environments.  I only
> have two FreeBSD systems and they are linked by ethernet.
> 
> > > > I think perhaps if people want to install PBS they could read a
> > > > howto instead of usin a port.
> > 
> > It's strange to read such seeming dismissal of the ports collection from
> > someone who has contributed so much to it.
> 
> You know, you're absolutely right.  But I'm used to programs that do not
> have restrictive licenses.  If you look at the 80 or so ports I maintain,
> you will notice none of them have anything other than the QPL, GPL, BSDL,
> or artistic licenses.  My real sympathy is with open-source programs.  ;-)
> 
> Since I'm mostly complaining about silly restrictions and since pbs covers
> a niche the ports collection doesn't currently, I will personally see to it
> that pbs is in the tree before June.
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Will Andrews <andrews@technologist.com>
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> 


-- 
David A. Bader, Ph.D.                           Office: 505-277-6724
Dept of Electrical and Computer Engineering     FAX:    505-277-1439
EECE Building                                                       
University of New Mexico                         dbader@eece.unm.edu
Albuquerque, NM  87131               http://www.eece.unm.edu/~dbader



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