From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 15 13:49:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E26D37B40E for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.11.5/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9FKmM537118; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:48:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pemaquid.safeport.com: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:48:22 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Mike Meyer Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup is overkill for me In-Reply-To: <15307.13315.289142.708901@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > doug@safeport.com types: > > 2) What track to follow: > > If you are learning and do not want to get bitten by a occasional STABLE > > snafu, use the tag RELENG_4_4 (See handbook A.7). This has only security > > and critical fixes in it. From my perspective CURRENT is only for the > > developer/experts and the warning on STABLE is overly cautious. Even with > > that I have a test system that I upgrade first and then used the 'date' tag > > to replicate that level to the production systems. > > Your perspective on CURRENT is pretty much correct. Anyone tracking > -current for anything but testing should be capable of at least > providing good debugging information, and preferably should be able to > suggest patches for the problem. > > The handbook may be overly cautious, but it's better to be incorrectly > running _4_4 when you can stand the glitches in _4 than to be > incorrectly running _4 when the glitches in it will be a serious > problem. Ja - I agree with this; my comment was just for the mail list. I think since 3.2 when I started there have been less than 6 screw ups. I think I remember that in all but one case fixes were almost instaneous. My comment was taking note of this fairly eximpliar record. > Finally, rather than use the date tag to replicate the level of the > test system, I prefer to build on one system, and use NFS to export > that build to all the systems. Since my build system is noticably > faster than the other systems, this safes time. It also means I'm > running the exact same bits for world on all the systems, which makes > me feel a bit better. The downside is that the build system has to > build for 1) the least common denominator hardware and 2) everything > that any system will need, but neither is a serious problem. Again I agree, and do this. However I use date to duplicate the source tree on my laptop so I can do fixes and update things when I am away from the office. _____ Douglas Denault doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message