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From: Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@icir.org>
To: Colin Percival <colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk>
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 08:44:28PM +0000, Colin Percival wrote:
> At 20:19 11/03/2004, Julian Elischer wrote:
> >On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> > > As I understand it picoBSD has never managed the 4.x->5.x transition
> > > and is scheduled to be removed if nobody starts paying attention
> > > to it soon.
> >
> >I may be looking at it soon as it still produces a smaller system than
> >'nanoBSD' and works well for systems with old 8MB flash.
> 
>    Just a general reminder about building small images: NetBSD's makefs
> (available as ports/sysutils/makefs) creates disk images a few % smaller
> than those built via memory disks.

this is actually a very interesting one because vnconfig/mdconfig
was the last part of the picobsd that required root privileges.

thanks for the pointer!
luigi