From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 24 12:57:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from envy.vuurwerk.nl (envy.vuurwerk.nl [194.178.232.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E999C37B42C for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 188 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2000 19:58:42 -0000 Received: from kesteren.vuurwerk.nl (HELO daemon.vuurwerk.nl) (194.178.232.59) by envy.vuurwerk.nl with SMTP; 24 Aug 2000 19:58:42 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 19671 invoked by uid 11109); Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:31:12 -0000 Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 17:31:11 +0200 From: Peter van Dijk To: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: nuking "unsafe" protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons) Message-ID: <20000824173111.G8936@vuurwerk.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Peter van Dijk , FreeBSD Stable List References: <200008241201.IAA32736@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000824080419.B51628@dazed.slacker.com> <14757.15655.515615.780499@onceler.kciLink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <14757.15655.515615.780499@onceler.kciLink.com>; from khera@kciLink.com on Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:20:07AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:20:07AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: > >>>>> "DM" == David McNett writes: > > DM> If someone insists on using those antiquated and unsafe protocols like > DM> telnet and the r* services, we should at least make sure they're doing it > DM> on purpose and not just leaving the defaults in place out of ignorance. > > How do you make rdump/rmt work without the rcmd service? I've got a > LAN and do all backups of workstations to one server with a tape > drive. Without the rshd service, it won't work. > > You shouldn't claim people ignorant when there are no alternatives. > But please, prove me wrong. He's specifically saying you are *not* ignorant. *most* people that have these services are ignorant. You are in the 'on purpose' category he mentions and there is no insult whatsoever towards that group. Greetz, Peter. -- [ircoper] petervd@vuurwerk.nl - Peter van Dijk / Hardbeat [student] Undernet:#groningen/wallops | IRCnet:/#alliance [developer] _____________ [disbeliever - the world is backwards] (__VuurWerk__(--*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message