From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 4 10:53:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10645 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.72.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10612 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim.king@mail.sstar.com) Received: from oasis.zycor.lgc.com by junior.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.26) id MAA21551; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:52:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from maroon by oasis.zycor.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.20) id MAA04000; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:52:02 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199811041852.MAA04000@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> X-Sender: jim.king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:52:02 -0600 To: David Wolfskill , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu From: Jim King Subject: Re: has this been fixed? In-Reply-To: <199811041759.JAA18450@pau-amma.whistle.com> References: <199811040329.WAA02779@gaylord.async.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:59 AM 11/4/98 -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: >>From: Clark Gaylord >>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:29:28 -0500 (EST) > >>> Just out of curiousity, how did the threshold for "a bit too long" get >>> determined? Is this defined in the IDE standard? Did someone conduct > >>IDE standard? You are funny. Let me guess, that's published on >>www.snakeoil.com, right? > >Ummm.... I didn't ask the original question, but it's not at all clear >to me why it should be "funny." > >Given that someone evidently thinks it is, I gether from context that >the phrase "IDE standard" is a reference to a nonentity? Is there an >expectation that anyone who might ever want to use a FreeBSD system >should know this? There are published documents that are referred to as IDE standards. My experience over the years has been that different drive manufacturers interpret them differently, and newer standards tend to skimp on backwards compatibility with older standards. I always cross my fingers when mixing drives from different manufacturers, or drives that were manufactured more than a year apart. Just last night, the simple act of tossing in a 2-year-old EIDE drive into a system with a 6-month-old UDMA drive resulted in a *completely* non-functional system, until I pulled out the EIDE drive AND reset the BIOS configuration. I absolutely *hate* IDE. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message