From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 07:18:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF5B2E10 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rush.bluerosetech.com (rush.bluerosetech.com [IPv6:2607:fc50:1000:9b00::25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7973F1949 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from chombo.houseloki.net (c-71-236-222-167.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.236.222.167]) by rush.bluerosetech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26E4111434; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 23:18:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:1680:365:4055:e8ed:3d40:2f96] (unknown [IPv6:2601:7:1680:365:4055:e8ed:3d40:2f96]) by chombo.houseloki.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16A6B9C7; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 23:18:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <52A2CB99.5050900@bluerosetech.com> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 23:17:45 -0800 From: Darren Pilgrim User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Andrews Subject: Re: BIND chroot environment in 10-RELEASE...gone? References: <529D9CC5.8060709@rancid.berkeley.edu> <20131204095855.GY29825@droso.dk> <20131205193815.05de3829de9e33197fe210ac@getmail.no> <20131206143944.4873391d@suse3> <20131206220016.BADCAB556F4@rock.dv.isc.org> <1386367748.17212.56515229.7C50AFEB@webmail.messagingengine.com> <20131206223300.89253B55861@rock.dv.isc.org> In-Reply-To: <20131206223300.89253B55861@rock.dv.isc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 07:18:05 -0000 On 12/6/2013 2:33 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <1386367748.17212.56515229.7C50AFEB@webmail.messagingengine.com>, Ma > rk Felder writes: >> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013, at 16:00, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> >>> But they should all be running a resursive validating resolver on >>> every box. >> >> Are you *really* suggesting that I should run a recursive validating >> server on every single server I admin? > > I'm suggesting that it should be run on *every* machine in the > world, until all the applications that use data from the DNS have > been upgraded to validate the data they get from the DNS, need to > be be running a validating resolver. Yes, everything needs a validating resolver; but everything only needs something behind getaddrinfo() that validates the responses provided by the servers listed in /etc/resolv.conf. BIND and Unbound do not operate as forwarding servers by default and we really do not want everything running its own root-hinted resolver.