Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 23:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) To: jdn@qiv.com (Jay D. Nelson) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Servers (single IP) Message-ID: <m0vx6Si-0008yAC@agora.rdrop.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.95.970218192528.926A-100000@acp.qiv.com> from "Jay D. Nelson" at Feb 18, 97 07:39:31 pm
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> The long and the short of this is: why should I give an ISP money who > insists on dictating to me? HTTP 1.1 is great -- I'd like to see it become > standard -- but it's not. If one dictates to you, I would run as fast as I can. Calling it fraud, as someone else did, to implement a technical solution to which most people could care less about is another matter entirely, which is what raises my hackles. As if "virtual domains" meant the same thing to any two isp's regardless... There's no need to get nasty when discussing the technical merits of various solutions. As an ISP, if a customer wants a static IP address, and I have them to give, I will. As it happens, I haven't switched to the uni-address model yet myself, having just recently discovered that Apache even supported another method. I want to analyze the Agent logs and determine just what the count is of browsers that will go to the wrong place, and would then discuss it with existing customers before switching them. Given that Lynx and Netscape 2.x both do it, I think the count of browsers that don't is very *very* small, I don't see any particular reason not to, but each environment must make that determination itself. Ftp in particular is a case where you do have to have unique addresses. For Web and email, which is what most people care about, they could care less what the ip address is though, and probably don't even realize there is one. But, I think this horse is quite dead now. In the end, as a provider, you provide what you think is the best solution, and if the customer wants something different, and you can give it to them, you do. -- Alan Batie ______ It's not my fault! It's some guy batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / named "General Protection"! +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Ratbert PGP FP: DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 \/ 7A 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation.
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