From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 27 04:05:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F8916A401 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8913C4A3 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R45E3g026252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:05:15 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1R45E4K003219 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:05:14 -0800 Message-ID: <45E3ADE7.6080803@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:04:55 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <45E2604A.4060909@chrismaness.com> <45e2968a.pbbjenCoLr1b8zw7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20070226124711.L89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <0C367203-3CE2-4E7F-A2B0-8B39F0D98697@goldmark.org> <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <20070226214106.W38271@chylonia.3miasto.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.194934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 04:05:15 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> the extra features of on exchange server some place (shared calendars >> etc), getting users to move away from Outhouse is a major security >> improvement and reduces most of the email tech support calls. > > i provide services for users, including mail services with IMAP access. > and i often help users of my services how to configure their client > programs (which is often not my duty) for free. > > but i don't help solving problems that people willingly create, FOR > EXAMPLE by using Outlook for mail. > > other examples are using internet explorer, others are installing some > "magic firewalls" and "feeling secure" instead of just stopping all > windows network services and then running few really needed (often none). > > Other is using POP3 instead of IMAP, so no e-mails are kept on server > side (and backed up by me daily) and then > > but thats problems they are willingly creating, and chance to get some > cash providing data recovery services etc... > > people are allowed to be stupid. it's natural. no need to worry Sometimes managing calendars and corporate schedules can be a pain in the ass. I don't see how groups like Intel could do it any other way.. For smaller groups though, it isn't as necessary, yes.. Besides, I still like my Thunderbird / pine :). -Garrett